Why do we need CC? - Blue Tracker

#0 - March 1, 2007, 1:45 a.m.

I'm intrigued as to the 'shamans need CC' posts and such.

PvE (all builds) - other classes have CC, and we have our own hybrid roles to deal with. We have slight CC with our earth elemental totem but it's not great. I don't think we need any form of CC for PvE.

PvP - Elemental*
Elemental is all about keeping the distance, using your frost and earthbind while you nuke down people to keep them away. It is possible. The only problem at the moment is the dps is probably not big enough, but that is not a CC issue.

PvP - Enhancement
I don't think we need CC...
We just need something for when we are being kited that works reasonably well. Earthbind and frostshock (lol diminishing returns) don't do that well enough. I'm not sure what it is. I think some form of warrior charge would be over the top but something that makes combat against ranged a bit more... likely to succeed? would be fantastic.
I'm not sure about anti-CC's such as fear etc. I don't find that warlocks and shadow priests are fearing me to death anymore. Hunters ice trapping and aimshotting me to death as well as mages ** who sheep, nuke, freeze on the spot and ice lance me to death are my current issues. I can do nothing but run away.

PvP - resto
Great pvp support cast, but can be more easily closed down than many other healing hybrids/pure healing specs. Just my impression maybe.

In conclusion, I don't think we really need a powerful CC, but something to stop ourselves being kited so easily and to assist in kiting (ie keeping mobs at safe distance) would greatly improve PvP.

Also our PvP damage needs to be upped a little, especially elemental. Not sure what others think about that.

* I'm an elemental nub who never played too much elemental pvp so I may be wrong.
** lol wrote priests instead of mage

Tseric

#3 - March 1, 2007, 2 a.m.

Q u o t e:

lol I accidentally posted this in general instead of shaman forums.

Sorry!

I thought you might have, heh. Moved for you to the Shaman board.

I think this'll be a long standing contention because the devs don't want to copy/paste a CC ability and the players have built it up as a necessity. Sometimes repeating a thing over and over makes it true in the mind.

Sometimes this strikes me the same as people saying 'My survivability in PVP is terrible'. I think I've practically heard every single class petition that as a primary class concern at one time or another. It sounds reasonable on the face, but doesn't make sense the more you look into it. Granted, this isn't really the same situation, but I think the collective might be so adamant as a collective decision, not necessarily based on the merit of the claim, itself.

Thoughts?

Tseric

#320 - March 1, 2007, 5:17 p.m.

Thanks for all the replies. This'll make a good read for today. Hope you don't mind if I delete some of the less helpful or worthwhile replies to clean up the thread some.