Ganking/Harassment

#0 - June 20, 2008, 3:47 p.m.
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At what point does ganking become harassment?

I recently got my girlfriend into the game and she joined me on my PVP server. She is leveling rather well but she was ganked and camped the other day for about 2 hours before she gave up.

I was wondering at what point this becomes a violation of the rules and a bannable offense. she spirit resed to attempt an escape but once they saw her corpse go skeleton they ran to the nearby graveyard and camped her again. 3 70's vs a level 30 is not a fun afternoon for her.

Honestly it's a pvp server and I understand ganking happens she is fine with that and likes to PVP when she can. However what's to stop people from doing this round the clock to someone. granted I have a 70 and i often save her from gankers when they arrive but I can't take 3 epic t6 level 70's.

also the /spit /rude's get old fast, but then I am used to it.

So my question is, at what point do you submit a ticket, no longer can you just run to a new spirit healer.
#74 - June 20, 2008, 6:37 p.m.
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This thread seems to have turned into a debate about the nature of PvP on PvP realms. It seems that there will always be those that desire an honorable, equitable fight.

I can certainly understand and respect that. My personal main is on a PvE realm, because, as one poster stated, my time is my own. When I want to accomplish a goal in World of Warcraft, I do it during the windows of time I have available to play, and I want to get it done.

On the other hand, virtually all of my alts are on PvP realms. Life as a low level character on a PvP realm can be like a gnome - irritating, maddening and short. And yet, somehow, for all of that, I love it (much like gnomes =/).

Neither play-style is in my opinion superior - each merely represents a choice regarding how you wish to interact with the game world around you. Opting to play on a PvP server is indeed inviting a great deal of frustration and even anguish into your play. On the other hand, once you reach the heights, and have a group of loyal friends you can trust surrounding you, then the time for righteous vengeance has arrived. Every accomplishment feels a little more hard won. Thus, the pay offs can be sweet.

The real question at hand is this; When does corpse camping become harassment on a PvP realm? There's no hard and fast answer available, but suffice to say, that as long as no exploitation is involved, that we endeavor to keep ourselves separate from PvP on PvP realms as much as possible to preserve the integrity of the experience, and the scope of boundless conflict. As result, we will indeed only intervene in the most heinously extreme circumstances. A few hours typically does not qualify. If you are on a PvP realm, it is best to assume that we are not likely to step in at all.

There have been a number of useful posts regarding what to do when it looks like someone intends to camp you. For the most part the advice has been very solid. Essentially, there are a few basic options which I'll recap here, and I've employed them all at one point or another in the past:

  • Log into an alt for awhile. At this point, the 'camping' is wasting their time, not yours.
  • Request the aid of friends and guild mates. Most times, your pals will be happy to help; but don't abuse their largess, or they may be increasingly reluctant to help.
  • Politely request the aid of your faction mates. You may not receive a response, but it's worth a shot.
  • If you have a higher level character on the same realm, counter-camping can teach a valuable lesson.
  • Try using the Spirit Healer to resurrect. Clever campers will anticipate this though, so be cautious.
  • Take a moment to analyze if you may not have violated in-game etiquette in some fashion that generated substantial anger or resentment. Sometimes the best way to avoid being camped is just to be a nice person. Either way, if you have developed a reputation as someone kind and friendly, you are more likely to receive aid when you request it.


It seems that your girlfriend took all the right steps. This can be a terribly frustrating experience, and I'm truly sorry that she had to endure it. While long term camping isn't usually very common, if this kind of thing has totally soured the fun of World of Warcraft for her, it really might be worthwhile to consider rolling on, or transferring to, a PvE realm. We offer both play styles (and of course RP as well), because we realize that this kind of PvP is not for everyone.