Aysa Cloudsinger

#1 - Oct. 4, 2012, 6:41 p.m.
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What is your problem?? Ji blew the ship out of the turtle's side removing the "thorn," and you ask him if he can forgive himself??? He just solved the damn problem! So much internal and external rage being directed toward that stupid panda...
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#145 - Oct. 5, 2012, 4:29 p.m.
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10/04/2012 11:41 AMPosted by Sophex
What is your problem?? Ji blew the ship out of the turtle's side removing the "thorn," and you ask him if he can forgive himself??? He just solved the damn problem! So much internal and external rage being directed toward that stupid panda...


10/04/2012 11:41 AMPosted by Sophex
What is your problem?? Ji blew the ship out of the turtle's side removing the "thorn," and you ask him if he can forgive himself??? He just solved the damn problem! So much internal and external rage being directed toward that stupid panda...


I think Aysa was upset that Ji took what she thought was too big of a risk. She wanted to sort out some better, less risky way. But Ji, without talking it through, did what he felt best and took upon himself the full measure of the risk. He wasn't thinking beyond the moment. It just shows the difference in their own natures. They're obviously good friends, so it couldn't have been easy on them to choose separate paths.

I also think this was the point at which I was able to make a decision on which way my own Pandaren would go.
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#163 - Oct. 5, 2012, 6:47 p.m.
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10/05/2012 11:23 AMPosted by Gorkag
They're not that far off. Are you familiar with the butterfly effect? All things are connected, if a butterfly flaps its wings in New York, China gets a hurricane.


I thought the butterfly effect was a concept in temporal interference.

IE, even the smallest alteration to past events has drastic effects on the future just like in that Ray Bradbury story.


The Butterfly Effect is a metaphor for sensitive dependence on initial conditions in chaos theory. (According to Wikipedia) It's covered in Ray Bradbury's story, "A Sound of Thunder" featuring a time traveler on safari who steps outside the dictated path and crushes a butterfly thus changing the future.
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#165 - Oct. 5, 2012, 7:12 p.m.
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An apology to him before they went their own way was in order.... Ji made a plan to get the ship out, constructed and set it up personally. He then planned on the healers of Alliance and Horde to aid in closing the wound and personally helped to keep the Saurok off them..... what the hell was Aysa doing? ( unless she was on the other side of the wound??? though I doubt it).

I agree that she had a right to be upset, this was their people's home and a living on at that. A lot of history and wisdom...but Ji pulled through and proved himself, a little reckless and brash but a stout heart and soul..... She's got too big of a chip on that shoulder of hers.


He was definitely hurt that he didn't get an apology I think.
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#183 - Oct. 5, 2012, 9 p.m.
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I think he was dispirited, he seemed a bit torn when mentioning of joining the Horde. I wouldn't put it past him to feel alone after hearing him talk in Orgrimmar.

I'm sure you can't reveal or take sides :p But do you think Aysa needs to be more understanding and not so quick to judge? Ji even says to the players at one point on Shen-Zen Su to say that while they are both disciplined differently and act so, that they compliment one another if allowed to. He just strikes me as a humble Pandaren.

I hope something happens to make Aysa open her eyes a bit more.


I think they're very much a representation of the yin/yang dynamic. They "balance" each other. But that's just my opinion, of course. :) They each have their predilections and I couldn't say that one was right and the other wrong. The results were good in the end, the question was about the means though.