#0 - May 22, 2008, 2:26 a.m.
In effort to keep "Blue" responses accessible, this thread will replace the one provided above. Please feel free to continue your discussion(s) herein. :)
Thanks!
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Quick!
Someone tell Orylia that the other (now locked) thread has been abandoned due to forum bug! She's still linking the old one (I was going to tell her, but the post I noted it in is now locked)
edit: Sri, I think we'll see a pickup, 16:30 here, got the evening of Oceanics signing on to get through, first ;)
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banned for something i did not do......sent in email to wowAA......
...*several days go by*.....sooo coollddd..
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How come this long? i mean i understand how you are busy but it is usually 24-48 hours normally before you get a reply.
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It says before ANYONE hears back. So even if you sent in an email first you might not hear back for 2 weeks even though your email was the first that AA recieved?
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How can he just purchase another key? Are you saying he can buy another Auth key w/o having to buy another box? Where on the WoW site can he buy another auth key?
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I think that Blizzard should not ban people by just having bot software on their computer. I also have a question How do they KNOW it's bot software? It could be anything. In my opinion this is not fair. On the other hand if they have seen it working in-game and know that they use it they should be permenatly banned. If they had this proof that they used it INGAME and it's not just on their computer there would be a lot more people still enjoying the game.
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Naa, that's just an excuse.
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So if you where hacked and subsequently banned because of activity that took place on that hacked account the 'official' response is TOO BAD! Gotta love that kind of customer service lol
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Actually his little brother was banned for using a keyboard that enables him to use macros that blizzard doesn't make money off of. Blizz advertises the Zboard which it makes money off of yet has the same macro capability that the G15 has. Why is one allowed and the other not if they are both capable of the same macros, etc.
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Sharing an account between spouses may technically be against the ToS but keep in mind that Blizz is in California and subject to California laws and Cali has community property laws. What one spouse owns so does the other, 50/50, etc. So legally they can probably share that account, etc.
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I wanted to bring this topic up again because I heard some people mention "false positives" which is a very real issue concerning tests, whether it be from Warden, or even things like cancer.
To start off, lets use the total probability rule
It states that
P(A|B) = P(B|A)*P(A) / P(B|A)*P(A) + P(B|A')*P(A')
where
P(A) = Probability that a person is not a botter
P(B) = Probability that a person is identified as a botter by blizzards software.
P(A|B) = Probability that a person is not actually a botter, given that they were identified as a botter.
P(B|A) = Probability that a person is Identified as a botter, given that they don't use bots.
P(A') = Probability that the person is not-not a botter, or more simply, the person is a botter.
Lets give some generous numbers here and say that Warden has a 99% accuracy rate (Almost no test has that high of a accuracy rate)
Lets also say that 1,000,000 of users actually use bots. (that's ~1/10th of blizz's customer base...surely not actually this high).
Now for filling in the blanks...
P(A|B) = (.01*.90) / ((.01*.90) + (.99*.10)
P(A|B) = .009 / (.009 + .099)
P(A|B) = .009 / .108
P(A|B) = .0833 = 8.33%
That means that based on these numbers, 8.33% of the people who were banned, were banned falsely.
Given that reportedly 350,000 accounts were banned, that would mean that roughly 29,000 of them were banned incorrectly. That's a pretty staggering number.
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I have a question about a friend’s account that recently (this Monday) was closed. The first e-mail he got said something about exploiting the economy and that he had a 72 hour ban. Now he gets an e-mail saying he used third party software and that the account is closed. All this after he talked to a CS rep and was told that they think the account was hacked. This friend has played the game since release and has never shared his account or used any said programs.
I guess I was just wondering why the e-mail would conflict in such a manner from one to the next. The first was saying a 72 hour ban and it was for exploiting the economy and then he’s told he’s banned totally for using third party software. Needless to say he’s pretty upset. He has put a ton of work into his toon and it has all been done in a legit manner.
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Orlyia,
When you did that massive sweep and banned all those accounts can you be 100% sure that all those Accounts Banned were Guilty?