Honor Calculations, 12/24 AM

Hello all,

I just got in for the day but I will relay my knowledge of the situation so far.
It appears that the Honor Calculations did not fully complete last night for certain Battlegroups. Specifically the Vindication and Ruin Battlegroups.

Our server technicians are aware of this issue and are looking into it. Much like similar Honor calculation issues in the past it is not expected that this will have any long-term impact on your total Honor. We apologize however for the delay in these calculations.

Q u o t e:
I haven't had mine, so I'm sure I'm in one of the affected battlegroups, however I'd like to know where I can find a reference of which servers are in which groups, for the sake of curiosity. Also, thank you for the response, Kaone.

Vindication
Malygos
Llane
Lightning's Blade
Laughing Skull
Kargath Normal
Aggramar
Thunderlord
Gorefiend
Thunderhorn
Gilneas
Burning Legion
Shadow Moon
Eredar
Eonar
Burning Blade
Earthen Ring

Ruin
Bloodhoof
Mannoroth
Bleeding Hollow
Magtheridon
Lothar
Durotan
Warsong
Stormrage
Azgalor
Skullcrusher
Shattered Hand
Zul'jin
Arthas
Elune
Medivh
Argent Dawn

Q u o t e:
I'm on Arthas realm and still havent gotten my honor calculated.. It's not under either of those battlegroups.

Arthas is indeed on the Ruin Battlegroup.

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My question is does it seem that on Blizzards PvP tab on the Char info screen that the honor estimates for the day and previous day reset at around 6500? Does this make any sense?

They "rollback" to zero at about that number yes. This is another issue with how the Honor is displayed and should not be a cause for excessive concern. The ~6500 (or 13000) honor is not lost but rather just unable to be displayed correctly at those locations on the page. This is something we are working to correct.

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I'm on shadowmoon realm and still havent gotten my honor calculated. It show Shadow moon as Vindication..what do the term whirlwind, shadowburn, and etc. mean?

These are the names of Battlegroups. Battlegroups are collections of realms those Battlegrounds are linked together for the Cross-Realm Battleground system. Originally these were named Battlegroup 6, Battlegroup 7 etc, but more recently each were assigned a suitable name. Whirlwind and Shadowburn are examples of these.

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Bump so a million more people don't make "HONOR DID'T CALCULATE?!?!?!?!?!" posts

Is there a possible eta on when this might be resolved Kaone? If not, its ok, thanks for atleast letting us know whats going on. And a previous poster had said he wouldn't step foot in the BGs while this was going on, do you think that might be a good idea?

Currently I do not have an ETA to provide you with. Our server techicians are still working on this matter. As for your second question - no - it will not be a problem if you go and PvP in the meantime. I imagine the worst that could happen is that later on you may not be able see the kills/honor from this period - until a subsequent Honor Calculation takes place.

Update:

Honor calculations should now have been run on these previously mentioned Battlegroups. To verify this, please log out of World of Warcraft and then log back in again. You should be able to see yesterday's honor added into the Honor total and available for use. As for kills and honor earned today, it is likely that these will be unable to be seen. However they should still be correctly summed along with the remainder of today's PvP efforts when the next Honor Calculations run tonight.

Thank you for your patience throughout today’s calculation delays.

Q u o t e:
Ok well since Blue is ignoring this thread now, I guess we need to start looking for alternative means of gaining their attention

What makes you think we're "ignoring" this thread? I've been reading every reply, and taking them into consideration for possible issues.

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I'm requesting a formal acknowledgement that Blizzard have either deliberately or through negligence deleted a significant proportion of fairly earned in-game character rewards. While there's no legal avenues due to the EULA and Terms of Use, we can always raise formal complaints with the better business bureau.

You're welcome to contact the BBB if you truly feel that's necessary -- although I don't think it shall prove very fruitful in finding the vindication you seem intent on achieving -- but, in light of your request, here's an answer. The Honor calculations just finished running a few minutes ago, and as of now there is no evidence that would suggest that any Honor whatsoever has been lost. All Honor that would normally have been applied to your character during last night's calculations should now be displayed (although it shall be necessary to log out and back in to see it).

It is important to note, however, that any Honor accrued between when the calculations should have run and when they actually did run shan't appear until tonight's tabulations occur, after which it shall appear in the Honor total for "Yesterday." What you may take away from this is that, regardless of whatever display issues may be present, no data has been lost in actuality. We shall continue to monitor the situation. :)

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I myself am missing around 2k honor, unless there is some display issue, out of the 2000 honor I earned today and numerous kills once the honor calculation was finished running my kills were zeroed out and my honor went down to 500.

I suppose, then, that you didn't see this part of my reply? :)

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It is important to note, however, that any Honor accrued between when the calculations should have run and when they actually did run shan't appear until tonight's tabulations occur, after which it shall appear in the Honor total for "Yesterday."

Q u o t e:
Yes and I also see your post was edited, as was mine to reflect this.
If i missed it in my first read my appologies, if it was added in your edit, great.

The edit was just to add a comma I'd missed before; I'm a bit obsessive that way.

That part was in the original iteration of the post, but I'm just glad you've seen it now. :)

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Then again my appolgies and have a Happy Holiday.

Also because I don't think it gets said when it's done right, thanks for the update on the situation and the completeness of the update on the situation.

That's why we're here, friend. Have a wonderful holiday season. :)

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That right blue?

Sounds right to me. :)

Do I sound like I'm typing Engrish? o_O

Q u o t e:
I lost my honor and kills from yesterday. It seems to be over 2k honor that is gone. It wasn't there this morning in the total, but it was no biggy because the estimated honor and my kills from yesterday were still showing as today. So, I just figured they'd be calculated in later. I logged off for a few hours, came back and had 0 kills and 0 honor showing for today. The 200+ kills I got yesterday aren't showing up in today's column or yesterday's. I checked out my total honor and while it was higher than the total when I first logged in for the day, it is about 2K lower than it should be.

This is likely due in part to the fact that some of your kills from the past 24 hours won't appear until after tonight's calculations, Torgan, but it's also possible that some discrepancies may be attributed to various issues with the display of estimated Honor. I'd check your totals tomorrow. :)

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you obviosly did not fully read my post. i did absolutly zero pvp from 530pm saturday up to this minute. this is not an issue with calculations running from one day to the next. i did not pvp at all on sunday.

I did, in point of fact, read your post in full. My original assessment stands:

The discrepancies are due to display issues, and no Honor has been lost. :)

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i don't think so, nice try.

You're welcome to disbelieve me if it is of some comfort to you, Track, but you have my utmost assurance that some confusion has merely arisen on your part as to how many Honor Points you should be receiving at the end of the day; this is understandable, due to the number of display issues currently affecting estimated Honor and the apparent discrepancies this causes when the nightly tabulations occur, but no less true.

Honor issues do not generally affect one player out of thousands, as you claim to have had happen to you. These are widespread matters that affect whole swathes of realms at a time -- in the case of this morning, dozens of realms experienced issues with their Honor calculations simultaneously, and were resolved in one fell swoop. To argue that you alone are "missing" Honor, when tens of thousands of other players have seen theirs update properly, is almost certainly little more than a matter of misinterpretation. I do apologise, however, for your confusion. :)

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edit by the way merry christmas all. =)

And may you have a joyous holiday season. :D

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My "Yesterday." region is, as it was much earlier today, completely blank. This is obviously impossible if your statement is factually accurate which, I suggest to you based on solid evidence, is not. None of the deleted honor, as you suggest it should be, has been displayed, in any area, having been wiped, by Blizzard, through the inadequacy of their software.

Is it safe to assume, then, that you didn't notice my saying that the "Yesterday" should update after tonight's calculations? :)

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So, I continue therefore with my original tenet, which is to pursue Blizzard and their staff to acknowledge (it is not much to ask I think) that they have in fact, through a degree of either incompetency or inadequate software design, removed the in game benefits of several hours worth of play, for several individuals, without compensation or previous notice of such penalization.

I have no intention of acknowledging something that is, to use your phrase, "factually inaccurate." I can assure you that no Honor has been lost.

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An in-game GM informed me that, despite previous comments in the forum, honor calculations have *not* finished yet. So honor is still coming from the dozens of people I've spoken to who are still lacking, in some cases, up to 10K honor from this debacle.

You appear to have spoken with a number of Game Masters today, but I can tell you with certainty that the calculations run earlier today to make up for the tabulations that didn't occur last night finished over six hours ago. At this point, the only possible "losses" you could be seeing are due to one, or both, of the following: a) Any Honor accrued between when last night's calculations should have occurred and when they did occur will not display until after tonight's calculations; b) Various other display issues that can serve to artificially inflate one's Honor totals. In the most recent conversation you had with our staff, the GM specifically referred to display issues, and not to the fact that calculations were still in progress.

Q u o t e:
The last couple of posts in the forums seemed to make the calculations seem pretty final! I'm going to give Blizzard the benefit of the doubt, while they're saying on one hand that everyone has got all the honor they're set to get (forums), and the other hand that everyone has NOT yet gotten all the honor coming to them (GMs), and hope that there's another "fix" on the way for the missing honor.

The calculations from last night are final; however, it is still possible for display issues to be causing your estimated Honor to be lower than it should be. This should adjust itself during the next Honor calculations that your character is offline for. I feel it is important to reiterate, however, that you have not lost any Honor in actuality, and that all Honor that should be coming to you will be applied appropriately in due time.

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I really think a formal news post is in order, because probably 40% upwards of the people who comment in BG's admit that they have earned honor and not had it credited. That makes up for a *LOT* of very unhappy customers. At least the GM I spoke to acknowledged there was an ongoing problem, and honor has been lost and they're making efforts to reclaim it.

The only "ongoing" issues at work affect merely the display of Honor, which I understand can prove confusing for a number of players (most of which are the ones to whom you refer); there are, as of now, no actual issues with the Honor calculations that need to be acknowledged.