When do they subtract the 30%

The actual calculation of honor at the end of the day is where the 30% reduction applies.

Estimated honor does factor in the 30% reduction, but it does not take into account such things as diminishing returns. This is what has been causing the appearance of discrepancy with honor. The estimated honor is just that, an estimation. Because of something like diminishing returns not factored into the estimation, the estimation can deviate from the actual honor gained for the day.

After thorough testing, we have concluded there is nothing altering honor gain or loss beyond the intended factors.

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Any reason this can't be done at the time of estimation?

Because running full calculations for diminishing returns and the like causes a great number of processes for an individual player. If honor was being calculated on the fly, at up to the second intervals, you can basically say goodbye to any performance you might have had. The servers would simply buckle under the strain.

We run the calculations at low population hours to minimize the impact on the realm's performance.

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Is it that hard to understand or are you one of those that ran around in a PvP raid that first week and got everything they wanted? Here I'll show you what I mean.

Before the maitenence on Tuesday, AV towers and lieutenants were giving 20 bonus honor. That is on a nonAV weekend so no extra bonus was being given. Right now they give 14. 20 * .7 = 14. Ok so there is the 30% honor reduction, no? Ok then, now read what Tseric wrote again. They also do a 30% honor reduction at the END of the day meaning while honor gets calcualted. 14 * .7 = 9.8. We round that up to 10 for arguements sake. 20 (original gain) / 10 (new double reduced gain) = .5 *100 = 50% reduction.

algebra ftw, eh?

Estimated honor is not the same as actual honor gained. You are mixing real and imaginary numbers.

Again, estimated honor is not the same as actual honor earned. You are assuming that there is only one pool and that the estimation occurs when you see it (for the estimate) and for the actual honor gained (at the end of the day).

The 30% reduction applies to estimated honor. The 30% reduction applies to actual honor. They are not mutually exclusive nor do they contradict because estimated is not the same as actual.