Acceptable GM Behavior?

#0 - March 22, 2008, 1:06 a.m.
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I am inquiring about the nature of <Removed> warning everybody in my guild. It this something that is normally practiced by GMs?

Backstory on this subject is that some members of my guild were spamming players in trade channel, however, I have not participated in such acts, and yet I recieved an warning for supposedly doing this. It seems everybody in the guild has recieved a warning either from the GM himself, or in the mail.

So, why would we all be warned if only a select few people have been doing this, and will this count as an account action?
#14 - March 22, 2008, 1:17 a.m.
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My apologies for any seemingly false pretenses regarding this situation. Your guild was warned against the actions that your members were taking in order to prevent any further harassment issues; as this was merely a warning, please take it as that. No harm has befallen your account, as it was merely a warning against possible future occurrences of this form of harassment.

As each situation is addressed individually, it is possible for us to take this form of action; while not a common process, it's not something that is unacceptable.
#18 - March 22, 2008, 1:20 a.m.
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How can you reconcile this statement with warning EVERY SINGLE PERSON including people who were not doing anything at all?


It was one situation; therefore the specific situation was addressed individually.
#35 - March 22, 2008, 1:34 a.m.
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I am sorry for any confusion regarding the situation, Zizzizzia. As there were numerous reports about an issue — most of which were verifiable as harassment — our department took the approach that was most appropriate for the situation. We want to make it very, very clear to everyone that this behavior is NOT, and I will repeat this: NOT acceptable. Do not use this Mod to harass people; do not participate in these actions.

This is what the warning is for; as I've mentioned before: if you did nothing, no ill-effects have befallen your account. It's merely a statement of "Hey, don't do this, thanks!".
#48 - March 22, 2008, 1:49 a.m.
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Again, it's nothing personal; merely a general statement that the actions that were taken are not in the least bit appropriate. We have our ways of delegating this type of issue, and it's really does not task our normal processes. ^_^

Q u o t e:
But I do understand your meaning, and I can assure you that our guild is currently discussing action to be taken against the few members who've admitted to pranking a few people.


I am very glad to hear that we have an understanding. =)
#52 - March 22, 2008, 1:53 a.m.
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You are most certainly welcome, Xianis.
#54 - March 22, 2008, 2:11 a.m.
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What a great thread.


'swhat happens when you've got stairs in your house.
#57 - March 22, 2008, 2:27 a.m.
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Q u o t e:


You should have that GM flag himself as horde as we tried to invite him to the guild but alas, he was flagged as something else.


He's protected.
#62 - March 22, 2008, 4:01 a.m.
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Using an addon — or other various methods — to cause a number of other players to whisper another player. Doing this en masse would definitely constitute actions being taken against your account; as I mentioned before, your guild was warned against this specifically, but we also wanted to include the basic Zone/Area warning in there as well. I am however, not at liberty to discuss any possible actions taken against other player's accounts.
#68 - March 22, 2008, 7:38 a.m.
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i thought guilds cap'ed at 600 people?


Guild display caps at 500, but space is more or less infinite.
#75 - March 22, 2008, 4:16 p.m.
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I will continue harassing people by whispering them from trade chat, TIA

Edit: Goon Squad Goon Squad Goon Squad Goon Squad Goon Squad Goon Squad



Bad idea bad idea bad idea bad idea
#83 - March 22, 2008, 4:28 p.m.
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I wouldn't be so quick to deal out death and honking, Schirru. The warning—which was verbal only—was issued guild-wide to prevent further incident, as well as indicate that continuation of the practice would likely lead to repercussions on an individual level. If you truly want to avoid "retardation," just ignore it; responding in such a manner only encourages the behavior.


Edit:

Q u o t e:
Maybe it (just maybe) was a bad idea issuing me a warning when I didn't do anything?



No. It was a good idea. Friends often don't let friends get in trouble; they help each other. In a social environment like World of Warcraft, global warnings of this sort lead to discussion and encourage the matter to be addressed from within.
#95 - March 22, 2008, 4:50 p.m.
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The word "more" is baseless. Nothing happened to your account. You did not receive an action. Your entire guild received an equal and lateral verbal "head's up" in the hope that social philosophies and patterns would address the situation without further intervention or penalty from our department. It was a reminder and an encouragement not to participate in those actions governed by your peers.

If you do not "honk" at people, you will not be punished for it. With this, I sincerely encourage you and yours to perhaps wrangle down those who have and them politely encourage them to cease the unnecessary vigilantism.
#99 - March 22, 2008, 4:57 p.m.
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People from that guild need "special" attention.


Not necessarily. Back in grade school—to continue with someone's analogy—if the class received a loud "Knock it off, please! If anyone else decides to act up, you'll be staying with me after school!" I'd usually get nervous, too, even if I (deep down) knew better. The availability of an account is to precious to many; I'm not really surprised we've witnessed these repetitious responses.

The whole getting angry bit, though. That's a bit curdled. Centering chakras and deep breaths for everyone.
#116 - March 23, 2008, 2:29 a.m.
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The 500 person cap is intentional; any display errors that may occur when it's past that point likely aren't, but are unavoidable due to the soft cap. While you guys are an important and ridiculous part of the community, there simply aren't that many guilds worldwide that have considerably more than 500 people, and I personally can't really see the development time to up the cap and resolve any display issues being justified, even with your :15bux:.

That said, if you feel strongly about it, I'm pretty sure you know where you can suggest as much.
#131 - March 25, 2008, 9:32 p.m.
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I tire of this thread being bumped every day, when the basic concept is extremely easy to comprehend.

You guys are smart. I will not explain again the obvious for the umpteenth time.

If this seems harsh, I apologize. My patience dwindles with lightning rapidity when I see clever people pretending not to be.