Premade "Losing" BGs-Reportable?

#0 - Jan. 15, 2008, 11:36 p.m.
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On my server, I am always seeing people in trade chat looking for members for a losing BG with the intent of having it end quickly to get one mark. When I first saw this weeks ago, I thought the person was joking by saying "losing" because he figured we were going to lose anyway (we're alliance and all). I joined his group and then in raid chat said something like "I hope we're going to actually try and win". His remark was basically no, him and the other players were going to stand in one spot, naked, and dance. I was furious. I opened a ticket and not sure if anything was done, but I am still seeing players trying to get these groups together. If I see someone in trade chat doing this, should I report them? In my eyes, this is cheating and it isn't fair to the other players who actually want a fair fight.
#4 - Jan. 15, 2008, 11:50 p.m.
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The only thing with this is it says to report using the afk function in the BG. What about those players who are looking for a losing group in trade chat and I'm not actually in the BG with them. In these cases, is it something I should open a ticket for?


If someone is actively advertising non-participation, Vinessa, I recommend submitting an in-game petition. If you notice this behavior while in a Battleground, use the /afk report feature as well.

#63 - Jan. 16, 2008, 10:30 p.m.
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Not on this forum.
#64 - Jan. 16, 2008, 10:56 p.m.
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I most certainly will test it. Like I said earlier, I don't actively pvp. I haven't been in any battleground in over a month.

But I will find out the answers to my questions, whether I get a vacation or not.

That is unless of course a blue can tell me here. Specifically regarding my "buffing is participating" question.


I find this line of reasoning fascinating. A minor exercise of common sense renders this entire discussion rather moot. Buffs are great, and the majority of battleground participants enjoy and appreciate them. That aside, buffing alone, without actively participating in the other essential elements of the battleground, would not constitute participation. No amount of word play will change that.

If you were hoping to acquire some definition of participation, then I'm afraid that you shall be disappointed. As has been pointed out, specific definitions offer loopholes for exploitation, which is not something we are interested in facilitating.

I can't stop you from testing your theory in the battlegrounds. I can say that it is not wise to do so, and that you are likely to regret the results of your experiment in time.

I do have a question for you, though. Why are you attempting to validate and lionize a "playstyle" (though this is using that term extremely loosely) that degrades the quality of play for everyone involved? Is not playing World of Warcraft so important a goal to you?



#76 - Jan. 17, 2008, 1:20 a.m.
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I'll tell you the answer, but please refrain from sending me to the suggestion forums. I know where they are.

Try pvping as a shadow priest. You'll quickly learn why I don't care about if other players have fun, because I sure don't...getting two shotted by MS warriors, and stunlocked by mace rogues with cloak of skill, or having a druid stand there and heal himself with hots while he wrecks my face is buckets of fun. I wish I could express how much I enjoy being at the spirit rezzer every minute having to rebuff myself completely, just to be dead again within another minute.

Maybe you should ask yourself why people are afking to begin with. They want the gear, however it is miserable playing as a broken class against classes that are extremely overpowered.

If classes ever get close to being even again, I might try to pvp competitively. Until then, I will do everything in my power to exploit your system. It's literally not worth my stress to actually play the game when I could keep my sanity and get free honor too. Mind you, I don't do battlegrounds anymore ever since hunters got MS and a dispell ability.


That's as honest of an answer as I can give, Malkorix.


I appreciate your honesty, even if I fundamentally disagree with your reasoning and solution. Simply because you do not find your class competitive in PvP, does not give you license, or 'ethical' ground from which to justify exploitation.

If you are unsatisfied with the performance of your class or spec, then there are options (which I'm sure that you are aware of) for improving your experience in the battlegrounds, such as consulting other players of the same class regarding the tactics they employ successfully in PvP.

You say that it is not worth your stress, when you can acquire 'free honor'. That is precisely the point. Honor is not free - it is earned by players participating in a competitive environment. Only those who compete, and earn the currency that this competition provides as compensation, are entitled to the rewards. For those that are unwilling or uninterested in doing so, World of Warcraft offers alternative means of advancing a character.