AV Weekend bonus honor???

It will be looked into.

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Neth what would happen though it it's determined that not enough bonus honor was given away during that weekend? I feel it would be unlikely that any honor would be retrofitted and any changes would only be for a future AV weekend.

It's a shame because some of us worked really hard trying to gain some honor to take advantage of the Season 1 gear being released this Tuesday.

Please help :-(

In the past when we've had calculation errors, we've gone back to fix it. We'll let you know if we find discrepancies. In the meantime, please feel free to continue to give feedback on the numbers you believe you should have received so that we can track down any possible calculation errors that may have occurred.

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Thank you for your response.. and I agree with what others said.. it's much better than it'll be looked into although even that gave us some hope.


Neth do you have any idea where we were suppossed to earn the bonus honor from? I paid attention to tower caps and it didn't appear to come from there.. I also looked at GY caps at the end and I didn't see any additional honor from normal AV's.

Sometimes when I'm quickly working on something that takes me away from the forums, you'll at least see some sort of response, even if it's brief, to let people know we're around. ;)

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We took a look at this and we didn't see any errors. Those that are winning matches and capturing most if not all of the positions should be getting at the high end around 600 points with bonus honor. Previous to the AV changes in patch 2.3.0, players were seeing higher rewards due to longer running games etc.

We will continue to monitor things however for any further issues that may have affected proper honor gains.

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Maybe you could document it somewhere, the exact point values that different objectives are supposed to bring in. Including what exactly gets doubled on the BG weekends.

I'll see what we can do to work on getting some clarification about this for everyone. I just don't have any particular ETA I could give. Given the changes with the patch, it's understandable that people's numbers are going to seem off. Our own numbers are showing this to be how it should be, but as always, we are constantly watching to see if things need adjusted.

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Another issue that is gonna be swept under the rug.

I don't have a broom at my desk, but we'll try to work on getting some more solid information out on how the honor system should be working for everyone so we can hopefully avoid further confusion and make it easier for everyone to know when there really is a calculation error to report.

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I see two possibilities.

1) bonus honor was broken for the weekend, or

2) bonus honor was being added, but it was so minimal nobody noticed it (which begs the question, whats the point of having AV weekend??)

Either way some answers are in order.

Your second possibility is the correct one. AV weekend was adjusted so that there is definitely potential to get bonus honor on top of regular honor, but it is still somewhat close to 'normal' honor that can be gained.

Bonus honor can still be very worth it from these games.

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we're not asking for our bonus honor back, since i know we cant get it back since it very hard to do so *cough* *cough* but, fix it for this WSG weekend, which i know wont happen... maybe the next weekend? just fix it...

You should be seeing the same sort of bonus for all other battlegrounds on holiday weekends.

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If you have any guts at all you'll make an official blue sticky saying what you've done so you take the proper true brunt of what you've done.

Actually, funny enough you should mention it, we are working toward compiling a more comprehensive listing both for the forums and for the website to explain where the changes were and where the most significant gains are within bonus weekends so that players can better understand where the numbers are coming from. Right now we're experiencing a change over from the way honor in AV worked before to how it works now and there is a lot of confusion over that. We're going to do what we can to get rid of that confusion as well as we can so if you have specific questions about things, please feel free to post them and we'll do what we can to get them answered for you. As always, please keep it constructive.

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Neth, it would be nice if you had done this BEFORE the BG weekend. Making convoluted, hard to understand rules for BGs won't work for the majority of the game.

People don't go into a BG thinking "how will me and my team maxmize our honor. They go in thinking "win the game". The way it was prior to 2.3, you knew the bare basics of "cap the tower, get more bonus honor, kill balinda, get more bonus honor"....

I'm not sure where you hid the bonus honor in AV, but no one seems to have been able to figure it out over the weekend, and having the few people who troll forums trying to explain it to the unwashed masses in AV won't affect the outcome.


I was very happy with how you changed AV to make it more of a competition, more reliant on defense and not dying, but for god's sake, getting less honor for a win now, than we used to when 30 people were afk in the cave is not acceptable.

AV bonus weekend should be attached to the straight up objectives in the game. Bonus weekend should be "Tower cap, bal/galv, GY cap, Van/Drek = double honor" If a straight up win gets you 400-500 bonus honor on a nonweekend, you should get 800-1000 bonus honor on the AV weekend.

Right now

Normal week
400-500 bonus honor for a full win (can drop as low as 200 bonus honor for a fast win)

AV weekend
400-500 bonus honor for a full win.


There is no weekend currently.... there is no bonus.... just a fancy note on your calendar.

I agree. It would have been good if we had thought to put this together sooner. Unfortunately, I don't have a time machine to go back in time to fix it and we are apparently human.

Yes, there IS bonus honor to be had. In AV you're going to see most of that at the end of the match. Again though, we're working on more detail to better explain how it all works so that everyone can better calculate what they should be having and the strategies that go with maximizing honor gain.

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That is an awful reply to a very constructive post.

How about a simple explanation as to the difference between weekend honor then and now?

edit; Clarification

It hasn't been double bonus though it may have seemed it or been close for many. Some games though, tended to run long which allowed a higher accumulation of honor.

There will be an explanation of the differences when we get it put all together. Believe it or not, we do want to make sure that all the information we put together is accurate and available to all of our regions to share with the community.

My previous response wasn't meant to be insulting toward the poster in question. I was hoping to let it be known that we acknowledge we could have gotten information together a bit sooner as others have said. Being human though, we were focused on many other things and we missed an opportunity. We plan to correct that as soon as possible. That's the best we can do.

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Dear Nethaera,

I just wanted to thank you for your assistance in getting this resolved as quickly as possible. Though many people will continue to cry for blood, I feel that your efforts and those of the Blizzard team are commendable. I for one can state directly that my largest frustration does not lie with the changes, or their implementation, or Blizzards response. The biggest gripe that I believe myself and others would have, is the fact that with so much going on, things still slip through the cracks. It's not intentional, subversive, or planned on your, or anyones part at Blizzard for that matter. It just happens. It also doesn't make it any easier for the community to accept. We feel "at the mercy" if you will of others and that lack of control, in any situation whether game related or not, makes people nervous, resentful, and angry. If things were perfect, I think if the community would show more respect and Blizzard would be more thorough, which would be easier on everyone, but then again life isn't easy or perfect is it?

-Marteau

Thanks, Marteau. I understand where you are coming from and appreciate it.

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Any chance of BG information this week? It would be great to understand the changes made to how bonus honor weekends work and how to maximize honor in AV specifically. Just a nice blue sticky post underlining the changes would be suitable and time efficient.

It's going to be more likely next week (if all goes well). Sorry. Unfortunately, there are some time constraints among other things that aren't going to make it possible to have it done and out today.

The information is being worked on. When we have it ready to put up, we will be. I know people are anxious, but please be patient just awhile longer.

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The above is what the playerbase was questioning after the last AV weekend. The honor has been nerfed so badly that it is non-existent. The bottom line is that if the Wowwiki article is correct, then why have an bonus honor weekend anyway.

Naethera was asked to get a clarification to this situation. There has not been an offical Blizzard response and that is what is infuriating people so badly.

If they did nerf weekend bonus honor that badly then they need to come forward and admit. At least people can then decide if they really want to waste the time.

Clarification is coming and will be available prior to the weekend (barring any unforeseen problems. :)

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So.... AV honor was bugged like we all said?

What's going on?

It is not bugged, but information about how honor and bonus honor is given will be posted to hopefully help clarify things and sort out any additional issues players may be having.