Patch 1.12.1 & Rank 11 Mounts

#0 - Sept. 26, 2006, 5:04 p.m.

I'm very disappointed by Blizzard's solution to dealing with Rank 11 mounts under the new mount system.

From Hortus' post (with my own bold emphasis):

Q u o t e:

After 1.12.1 goes live there will only be one riding skill that will work with all mounts. The skill currently has 2 ranks Apprentice(75) and Journeyman(150).
# Apprentice(75) skill will be required for all superior(blue) level 40 mounts, the Rank 11 PVP mounts and the superior(blue) AQ40 mounts.

When the patch goes live the following changes will take place:
# Players with the Rank 11 PVP mounts will be granted Journeyman(150) skill.

Why would Blizzard choose to provide pre 1.21.1 rank 11 achievers with a 900g skill, but those who achieve rank 11 afterwards (this very week for myself) will receive an epic mount, but will still owe the 900g for the skill.

I see this as a problem because of two things:

1. The PTR doesn't actually test players in transition. This scenario didn't seem to be testable. It only tests players that are already or are not yet Rank 11.

2. It devalues achieving Rank 11 after 1.12.1

My recommended solution is to put a trainer in the officer's hall that will train Rank 11 players with the 150 skill for 10% cost (90g instead of 900g). That would result in the mounts costing 180g (90g for the skill, 90g for the mount) which would be double the cost paid by those pre 1.12.1 but definitely more of a reward than the current proposed solution.

Batta

#3 - Sept. 26, 2006, 8:21 p.m.

Do you have an epic mount that you're currently using, Pik? If so, you should have automatically received the Journeyman riding skill.

Batta

#10 - Sept. 26, 2006, 9:01 p.m.

Q u o t e:
You tell me. Blizzard decided that those pre 1.12.1 that have Rank 11 need it.

I don't know. My guess though is that at some point in the future if I don't have skill 150 I will be forced to buy it in order to get higher skill levels (flying mount skill perhaps).

Unfortunately, it does sound as though you will need to purchase the Journeyman riding skill if you wish to use the PvP mount at its maximum potential speed. I am sorry for the inconvenience this change may cause you, Pik.

This was a developmental decision implemented to revamp the way in which mounts are purchased and used in game for the better. If you feel this change was unwarranted or unnecessary, I ask that you post on our Suggestions forum.

Edit: This response is incorrect, unfortunately. Please see my clarification via the following link for further details:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28306370&sid=1&pageNo=7

Batta

#11 - Sept. 26, 2006, 9:02 p.m.

Q u o t e:
Can't you still use the rank 11 mounts without spending 900g? I mean whether or not you bought it pre or post patch....

You can, however, it will function as a standard non-epic mount without the Journeyman riding skill.

Batta

#134 - Sept. 27, 2006, 12:47 a.m.

So... I guess now would be the time when I admit how wrong I was and apologize for it.

To clarify on this issue, the PvP mounts only require the Apprentice riding skill AND move at a 100% speed increase. This essentially makes the price the same as before. Now, the Rank 11 mounts will cost 10 gold, plus an additional 90 gold base cost to train in Apprentice riding. I was wrong about them not moving at 100% speed unless one had learned Journeyman riding. I sincerely apologize for this miscommunication, folks. I only learned the details about this change when I walked in the office this morning; and, apparently I misunderstood the riding skill in relation to the riding speed.

Edit: I guess I should change my signature, since I unTruthed today. = (

Berghe

#159 - Sept. 28, 2006, 3:41 p.m.

The accurate and most recent information regarding the changes made to the mount system have been made available in this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28547481&sid=1

Let's please keep all discussion of this topic to one thread, rather than spread out amongst multiple threads. ;)