Horde Queue times

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Please respond blue,

Horde PVP Queue times at least on Duskwood and gorana are 30 + minutes a game, But if you log into the ally side on those servers its less then a minute... Please do something about these times, you can only get in one game if you have a hour to play, or you wait 30 minutes to get into a game that is already started and almost over. Please respond...

There is nothing that we can do about those queue times, Meanwhitecow, it is based on the number of players currently signing up for Battlegrounds. It sounds there are far more Horde attempting to PvP than the Alliance which allows for the Alliance to get into a match as soon as they have enough members.

Higher participation is the only thing that can change those queue times, Meanwhitecow, this is working correctly and has nothing to do with anything that our Developers could possibly do.

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It is the fact that not enough Horde are queuing to fill up the team allowing you to enter the BG.

I believe it is the other way around. If you have a group of 30 horde across multiple realms in the same battlegroup signing up for WSG and only 10 Alliance the Alliance will see fairly quickly queue times from their perspective.

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Something is wrong, for sure. I just tried 4 servers, moved my 80 to one... queue times are all the same for horde and instant for ally... Something is very wrong... Please look into this, and not just dismiss...

We are not simply dismissing it, Meanwhitecow, we have looked into these claims repeatedly. There are many Battlegroups where there are more Horde characters PvPing than Alliance. Other Battlegroups are the opposite.

If you do not wish to accept my answer and believe there is a bug the appropriate forum to post in would be the Bug Report forum.

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Ok, I am just saying that if you have one side of the faction waiting 20 to 40 minutes for one game, and the other side getting that game instantly. Then there is something wrong with the game mechanics itself. One base waits the others dont.

That is the way matches work, Meanwhitecow, there is nothing wrong with mechanics. If 40 people from one side queue up and only 10 queue from the other side there are going to be 30 other people who are stuck waiting for the current match to end and those 10 people to queue up again or for more of that side to queue up and create a new match.

Let's start it this way.. you have 40 Horde players queued up and 10 Alliance characters.

10 of those Horde characters create a match with the 10 Alliance characters.
30 other Horde characters wait in queue for another match to be formed but no other Alliance players are currently queuing.
The WSG match takes 15 minutes to complete, once it does the 10 Alliance characters queue back up.
A new match is created with 10 of the 30 Horde characters who were originally queued up and the 10 Alliance rush right in.
The 10 Horde that just finished the match re-queue. The WSG match takes 10 minutes this time. The match ends everyone queues up again.
Out of the 40 Horde in queue 20 of them have been waiting for 25 minutes, 10 have been waiting 10 minutes and the other 10 have just re-entered queue. The Alliance characters haven't waited because there is an ample amount of Horde to fight.

There is nothing wrong with the queuing system except that not enough players from the Alliance side are currently queuing up to match the Horde queuing up on your Battlegroup.

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I understand about the more horde argument, however this wasnt always the case, I remember queue times of 5 minutes....

Right.Times change, interest changes. Perhaps you have a lot of players who are experiencing the cogwheel issue and they are simply not joining right now until that issue is resolved. Perhaps, they are doing other things, like the holiday event.

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But anyway... Its to bad as a horde player you get less time participating in BG.

In your Battlegroup. It may not be so for other Battlegroups and it may not be so based on the level of participation as time goes on.

Hopefully more people will queue and decrease the overall weight times for you.

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was there something changed that gave priority to only those in full groups ?

Not that I'm aware of, Shriana, and if it is indeed working that way where you queue up long before the pre-made has and they go in first then I would recommend posting in the Bug Report forum to have our QA team look into it.

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Also my question regarding battlegroup mergers wasn't answered.

Ethzero, I'm not a developer nor do I liaison with them. The answer you seek though was previously addressed by one of our Community Managers, who is a liaison with our Developers. Basically, there are technical restrictions involved.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17899680784&sid=1&pageNo=3#59

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Vrakthris, are you all looking into any new ways to give allies more incentive to bg?

As I said, I'm not a Developer so I could not tell you for certain but as someone else said we wouldn't provide incentive to one faction and not another.

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They increased by a few minutes last Wednesday and Thursday (up to about 20-25 minutes), then they just leaped up to 40-60 minutes for every single BG I have queued for since.

Keep in mind there is an issue with the cogwheel (i.e. the Flag in WSG) that is causing freezes and disconnects for many players. Until the issue is resolved those that normally engage in PvP may be avoiding the instance.

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I don't understand why such a large portion of the PVP player base is having such a terrible time and you just jump on here and say it's working as intended. If that's truly the case, you ought to rethink whether you are really here to serve the customers, as your participation in this forum suggests. It is rather infuriating to see posts by blues saying things that really boil down to "we don't care that the vast majority of people queuing for our BG's are having to wait so long to play a 10-25 minute BG."

You are making a blanket statement based off of very little information, Dotmandoon. Please keep in mind our Developers have access to the actual data regarding participation and queue times across all realms and battlegroups.

We do care that queue times may be fairly long for some players, Dotmandoon, and our Developers will continue to look into possible solutions but we are unable to force people to queue so if you have a suggestion as to what you would like to see feel free to provide your constructive feedback in the Suggestions forum where our Developers can review it.

And to answer your question about my experience:

Actually on my Horde character my queue is rather quick when I'm playing during peak times, it is when I log in after work 2-4 AM PDT that queue times jump to 30-60 minutes, which is to be expected. My main Alliance character, who is on a different Battlegroup, usually has a bit of a queue most of the time though as participation is not nearly as common as in the Battlegroup my other characters are in. Truth be told though I am mostly working on holiday achievements at the moment, as well as a few other endeavors.