GM Abusing Power

#0 - Oct. 7, 2010, 5:21 a.m.
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So on my realm out of no where a GM named [Removed] comes into trade and starts warning, muting, even suspending people. Mean while of course gold spammers are continuing in trade, basically long standing players are getting punished but poor old[Removed] is able to continue spamming.

This is a Teen rated game right, with a profanity filter since when is a servers community suppose to watch what they say. People continuously have fun on Arthas and yet some GM who just got turned down has to come play security guard and ruin peoples night? But in all seriousness since when is this acceptable or even financially practical an ideal to punish paying customers.
#12 - Oct. 7, 2010, 5:33 a.m.
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After you keep applying for Blizzard i think you'll get luck this time. This is a game a GM came to our server's environment opened themselves to discussion then starting punishing people.


Actually, Thebadguy, they did not arrive to open a discussion. The Game Master was monitoring the chat and warning people to abide by the Terms of Use.

You did not, and in fact this account should not be able to post on the forum currently so I will be taking care of that oversight.

If you have an issue with a Game Master actioning you for using inappropriate language in Trade chat you are welcome to write to [email protected]. You did violate our Terms of Use and you were actioned accordingly. In the future if you wish to participate in a discussion, be mindful of what words you use.
#121 - Oct. 7, 2010, 10:51 p.m.
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Two wrongs dont make a right so that brings me to this.


Correct, two wrongs don't make a right, Kenagi. If this was kept in mind perhaps the overall atmosphere on a realm would be entirely different. Instead of blustering about in Trade defending ones digital prowess perhaps it would be best to not give into the puerile baiting.
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Had the Game Master had messaged both parties instead of broadcasting it in Trade Chat.


The only thing that was broadcast was when someone said something inappropriate. When that happened the Game Master let them know. They did not jump into trade with "Bam! You're suspended!".
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Something that they SHOULD NOT be able to do anyways as a blizzard employee. This wouldn't
have been blown out of proportion.


Though most of our actions are reactive in nature, Kenagi, that doesn't mean that all of them are. Nor does it mean that we are unable to change things up a bit. The fact of the matter is there are policies in place that you agree to abide by, if you violate those policies appropriate action may be taken.
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The Game Masters did not handle this accordingly. Currently the thebadguy is still serving a
3 day suspension while our guild master serve's his.


You may want to talk to your guild mate again, I believe you misheard him and what penalty he received.
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2 Weeks ago I got suspended while I was logged on, while the blizzard employee told me over
the phone it was an account security issue. Suspension for 3 days. Well within 2 hours the suspension was lifted and they refuse to tell me why I was suspended via email which I gave up asking.


You were suspended because initial investigation indicated that you were violating our Terms of Use by exploiting the game. Additional investigation showed that it was what is considered a false positive. The e-mail you received when the action was overturned apologized for the error.

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If GM's were patrolling chats in the first place maybe people wouldn't use
profanity.
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The fact of the matter is 3 hour suspensions,
12 hour suspensions for people who are accustomed to playing the game like this
fine. Come in from no where give people a taste of how channels will be patrolled
in the future, fine. Point made

Unfortunately the punishment did not fit the crime, and you all know it.


No, I believe the majority of people posting here are disagreeing with you wholeheartedly, Kenagi. Again, the policies that prohibit the use of profanity have always existed, those aren't new and all players should be abiding by them, as they agreed to when they installed the game and after each patch. Simply because you don't have someone sitting over your shoulder at all hours to make sure you abide by them doesn't make it permissible.

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People don't get suspended for profanity on Arthas. No one reports
anyone. Either too lazy or they end up using profanity in return.


Given that the attention was drawn to that realm based on submitted petitions, Kenagi, I'd say you are mistaken. Obviously there are many members of that community that do not care for that type of behavior and want it changed. They may not always submit a petition, perhaps being led to believe by others that nothing is done. Hopefully what happened last night will reinforce the fact that they are not alone in this cause. The Game Master department is behind them and will work to enforce the policies that govern this game making it a fun and safe environment.
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I'd like to thank everyone for showing support in light of this.
Everyone I know, that had a 3 day suspension has been reduced to 3
hours. Possibly everyone has.

Thank you all for your support. Happy to see the forums put to
good use, regardless of people taking ownership of a forum that
they have no supervision or responsibility for.

Actually, Kenagi, any posts made regarding this matter had no affect on what actions were taken last night. None of those players were suspended for 3 days, not one.

If you would like to provide feedback regarding the Game Masters actions last night, which were fully sanctioned by the way, you are welcome to write to [email protected]. If you believe our policies should be enforced in some other fashion, you can provide your constructive feedback in the Suggestions forum.

I'd like to thank everyone for their kind words and support on this subject. Though we are not always able to be this visible in addressing such reports and issues please know that we are always working to make your gaming experience the best it can be.

Please submit an in-game petition if you see someone using inappropriate language in chat and it will be looked into and appropriate actions taken. Also, keep in mind that there is another feature that can be used in certain circumstances, this is the Report Spam feature. It should only be used to report advertising spam or player driven spam though, please do not use it for other harassment reports as they may not be properly addressed using this tool.



#200 - Oct. 8, 2010, 2:58 a.m.
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There's no way an apology was sent to me regarding that matter, that I am still extremely
bitter about.


I am sorry if you did not see the response, Kenagi, but one was indeed sent. The following quote is from that e-mail. I'd recommend checking your spam filter or junk folder, it may have been redirected.
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As a result, the account action has been removed from the account and all involved parties have been addressed. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

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There's no explanation, then I'm the idiot who calls up asking how I can prevent this so the person
is totally evasive and clueless. I open up tickets and nothing.


The person you would have called is a Billing Rep, Kenagi, they are generally only able to deal with Billing related issues. Thus they wouldn't have been in a position to provide you with any details. It should also be noted that we usually are unable to provide specific information regarding the type of exploitation you were temporarily actioned for. Though I understand that you were only seeking information to avoid such situations in the future this is not something that we are generally able to provide transparency for as it could give those who actively try to exploit our policies information on our methods.

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So Mood defends himself on trade channel because someone makes fun of his DK and he
is met with switt action.


The trouble is not with the defense, Kenagi, the issue is with how the person defended themselves. Had the language and subject matter been acceptable there wouldn't have been an issue and your guild leader would never have received an action.

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You guys never monitor trade channel, so why that night? Someone put in a complaint.
I know it, everyone knows it. GM's on trade chat? You know that is rare unless someone
put in a complaint you and were trying to catch the parties involved. Unfortunately you all didnt
anticipate how profain and vulgar our chat was so you walk away not finding what your looking for.


Actually, we have, we don't do it often but as I said before that doesn't mean we won't. This is also something that may or may not become more common. I will admit, the reaction was a little unexpected though not entirely, it wasn't anything that couldn't be handled. I think this thread is evidence that we did find exactly what we were looking for. We found several people who were using inappropriate language in a public channel and we issues warnings and other penalties in order to hopefully encourage those people to abide by our policies in the future.

We also showed many on your realm and others that were visited, not to mention the number of people who have seen the threads talking about this, that such behavior is not acceptable for this teen rated game. We hopefully convinced, and will do what we can to further convince players, that if they see such behavior they should report it and that we do indeed take appropriate actions based on those reports.

To those who were actioned please keep in mind that if this behavior continues and it is either reported or otherwise seen by our In-Game Support staff further action may be taken. These penalties can eventually result in the permanent closure of the account.

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I know for a fact it wasn't about vulgarity and profain use. If it was I would have seen GM's on
years ago. So what was the complaint about?


And you know that how, exactly? I'm sorry, Kenagi, but simply because you haven't seen something done before doesn't mean it can't or won't be.

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At the end of the day Im responding to the blue post not a bunch of people
that actually and absolutely not matter.


The truth is though, Kenagi, the others who are posting do matter. Though they may not be nearly as loud, their voice matters as much as anyone else's.

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I would love to get a lock on this.


Though you seem to indicate that you are responding to what I am saying I'm not entirely certain if you are comprehending the point of what I and many of your fellow players have said. So though I will grant a lock of this thread let me just finish by saying:

Regardless of if someone was taunted into violating the Terms of Use that doesn't negate the violation. Regardless of if we received an in-game petition, an e-mail to [email protected] or simply were monitoring the realm at the time, a violation of our policies is a violation of our policies.

If you wish to dispute your penalty you may contact our Account Administration department.

Account Administration
Webform: https://us.blizzard.com/support/webform.xml?locale=en_US
[email protected]

If you believe there should be a change to how our policies are enforced you'll want to post in the Suggestions forum.

If you want to provide feedback regarding your interaction with a member of our In-Game Support department write to [email protected].

Again, I thank you all for your continued support and efforts to keep this game fun and safe for everyone.