All you can eat, no credit for achievement.

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But I'm eligible for loot and badges and it counts as a kill on statistics but no achievement, I'm sorry but that doesn't sound right.

Achievements are particular in that many of them require you to be present at the time of the kill, though some of them may be a touch more forgiving by and large this is not the norm. I'm sorry, Penner, but if you released then in most cases you will not be awarded with the achievement.

I should also point out that loot and Emblem qualifications used to be as restrictive but our Developers changed how these systems work so that players qualify for loot/emblems.

If you believe this should apply to all achievements as well you are welcome to post in the Suggestion forum where our Developers can review your feedback.

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Well, seeing as you're being paid by the hour to post on these forums, could you please do your job and check if this one of those cases.

You seem to be confused as to what my job is, Penner. My job is to address what posts I can and I provided you an answer to your question. You did not receive credit for this achievement because you released. Simply because you are posting on an account that seems to be designed to keep you anonymous please do not believe you may post with impunity.

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Oh and by the way the reason I released is because you great Technical Designers at blizzard had it at one point where if anyone died the whole group wouldn't be elibible for the achievement, my guild and I discovered this therefore this is why I released.

Interesting, I'm certain your sacrifice is appreciated by your guild.

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You guys not informing us that you hot fixed something shouldn't have us paying the price. I apologize for coming off rude but I strongly think if I'm eligible for loot/badges I should get that achievement as well, and possibly a straight answer?

Our Developers hotfix what they can and implement other resolutions in patches. We provide some announcements in Patch notes but otherwise we do not announce each and every change made to the game. You were eligible for loot/badges because our Developers decided to implement changes to the game to allow players who had qualified to receive it regardless of releasing. They did not do so for achievements, thus if you release you do not qualify for the achievement.

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There was no sacrifice for my guild, I'm not sure if you're trying to come off rude or something that's very nonprofessional, just saying.

Professionalism is a odd category. Topics and conversations appropriate between a video game company and a customer is vastly different from a teller in a bank and an account holder.

It is not my intention to be rude to you, Penner. You claimed that you released because you assumed that your guild would not receive the achievement if you did not. That, in my book, is a noble act.

That doesn't change the fact that you released.

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Also please explain how another guild mate received this achievement when he released, I know your system is randomly bias for others and not, but I assume since other person was in the same situation and was awarded the achievement I'm creditable for this as well correct me if I'm wrong?

I couldn't tell you. I don't know what happened in his situation related to yours nor is it my duty to investigate the matter. If you believe a bug occurred you may post in the Bug Report forum with as much information as you can so our Quality Assurance team can look into the matter.

If you believe you qualified for the achievement, submit an in-game petition. Our In-Game Support staff is rarely able to assist in these cases but if they can they will let you know.

Digitoxin and Scuba, both of you please vacate this thread.

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Listen, I apologize if you feel I came off rude toward you, but I'm only trying to stand my ground in the situation. We're not here to " Troll ". We're here to discuss a issue and hopefully get it fixed,

The point, Penner, is you are not in a location that can resolve this issue to your liking. I am not a Developer, I can not reprogram the encounter to make you eligible if you release, nor can I change our policies and grant you the request to have the achievement awarded to you.

You are standing your ground in the wrong place. You are not putting up the good fit and sticking it to the man. You are arguing with 411. I provided you information based on what you said what happened and why you did not receive the achievement.

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Vrak told me, " . I'm sorry, Penner, but if you released then in most cases you will not be awarded with the achievement. " Notice he did not mention " All cases " Most and all are different meanings. Therefore I apparently began to " Yell/Attack " when I asked can I confirm this is one of those " cases ". Once again if you find my choice of wording rude then please understand you're free to leave this thread at anytime.

I apologize then, Penner, I sometimes forget that language is a fickle friend and can mean different things to different people.

I don't like speaking in absolutes because I have found when you do something jumps up and says "What about me! I didn't work the way you said".

As I said, in most cases, if you release, you will not receive the achievement. The determining factor of if this is one of those times is the fact that you did not receive the achievement. Because you did not receive the achievement it is one of those cases.

That seems to be where you were confused. You seem to be under the impression that the determination that if this is one of these cases needs to be verified by some means. It doesn't, because it always was. The fact that you did not receive the achievement verifies that this is not one of those cases. I am sorry for what confusion that may have been caused.

I believe this thread has outlived its usefulness so I thank everyone who participated in it.

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Edit: Thats not the determining factor, do you not understand the situation I'masking does the specialist department who makes chooses not to grant achievements in " Most Cases " make exceptions due to the lack of communication, and the fact another player in the raid got it and I didn't.

Ah, well that does clarify things a bit because from everything stated thus far you never indicated you were speaking about what a Character Specialist may or may not determine regarding this matter.

Frankly, I have no idea. We (speaking in a general sense, not "we" those who moderate this forum) generally are not able to grant achievements. That is a matter of policy and procedure. You are welcome to submit an in-game petition and inquire.