Location of Furor for Druids

#0 - Aug. 17, 2010, 4:28 a.m.

I think most people would agree that Furor is a feral talent. Under the current talent system, I don't think its presence in the resto tree is necessarily a bad thing. However, I somewhat view it as leveling talent do to its benefit to shapshifting, but being restricted to placing 31 points into feral first, I don't really see a lot of need for shapeshifting at level 70, when I will be specced strictly for cat, bear, moonkin, or healing while filling that specific role.

I know one of the issues I read about on the druid forums is trouble tanking low level dungeons. I think this is because people are viewing their druids as bears rather than shapeshifters (often skipping furor till after they get mangle). While I was leveling, I pulled with spells to pre-load threat. Furor gave me rage to start generating threat. And afterwards I was normally out of rage, making shifting back to caster or cat form dashing to the next mobs less of a burden on my performance.

On the other hand, in looking at the specs, I considered picking up Heart of the Wild for both my resto and moonkin specs. And while the stamina and AP is nice for ferals, I don't think it is really necessary for leveling UNTIL the later levels. As such, I propose swapping the two talents. Heart fo the Wild would be come a t1 resto talent, while furor would become a feral talent.

I do have a side question though. Why do we need to put 31 points into a tree before offspeccing? I get it needing to be more than 20-25 talent points, Blizzard doesn't want to encourage hybrid specs, and after finally accepting DW Elemental wasn't going to work, I agree with them. However, At 31 points, I feel I HAVE to pick up the 31 point talent and GC has mentioned you should WANT to pick it up, But at least in terms of DKs, I really, really hate Dancing Rune Weapon. Maybe it is just M:TG flashbacks of getting killed repeatedly by a stupid 1/5 flying artifact, But I would rather pick-up an 11 point talent in another tree then HAVE to pick a 31-point talent.

Anyway, thanks for any informative feedback.

Ghostcrawler

#4 - Aug. 17, 2010, 5:52 a.m.

Q u o t e:
I think most people would agree that Furor is a feral talent. Under the current talent system, I don't think its presence in the resto tree is necessarily a bad thing. However, I somewhat view it as leveling talent do to its benefit to shapshifting, but being restricted to placing 31 points into feral first, I don't really see a lot of need for shapeshifting at level 70, when I will be specced strictly for cat, bear, moonkin, or healing while filling that specific role.

We have actually swapped Furor (now in Feral) and Heart of the Wild (now in Resto).

Q u o t e:
I do have a side question though. Why do we need to put 31 points into a tree before offspeccing? I get it needing to be more than 20-25 talent points, Blizzard doesn't want to encourage hybrid specs, and after finally accepting DW Elemental wasn't going to work, I agree with them. However, At 31 points, I feel I HAVE to pick up the 31 point talent and GC has mentioned you should WANT to pick it up, But at least in terms of DKs, I really, really hate Dancing Rune Weapon. Maybe it is just M:TG flashbacks of getting killed repeatedly by a stupid 1/5 flying artifact, But I would rather pick-up an 11 point talent in another tree then HAVE to pick a 31-point talent.

We want you to get your 31 point talent and most of the time that's what players want too. When they skip that talent they feel, as you seem to express, that something is wrong with the talent, not that there is a really fun choice in another tree. So once it's a given that we want you to spend 31 points in the main tree, then spending points in another tree as you level is just going to force you to eventually respec to get that 31st point anyway. (Technically, you don't need the bottom-most talent -- you just need 31. But we still consider it a problem when you don't want that bottom talent for some reason.)