Ninja'd Loot? - Blue Tracker

#0 - Aug. 11, 2010, 2:30 p.m.

Hello,

A couple of weeks ago, a Solace of the Fallen dropped in TOC25. Loot rules were discussed in raid chat prior to any loot dropping, MS>OS.

I rolled MS on my priest, and had the highest roll.

The ML gave the item to a friend instead of the person that should have won it, myself.

I've put in 8 tickets so far, and the item hasn't been returned, the ML hasn't had a suspension for scamming, and the person he gave it to still has the item...

Is there a magic set of words I say to the GM or another route I take to get the item before the logs are too far gone into the past to do anything about?

I'm never online when the GM responds so they all leave the same pre-filled response in my inbox and don't do anything.

That trinket is hard to come by much less rightfully win.. What do I do? :(

Orlyia

#1 - Aug. 11, 2010, 2:47 p.m.

Cranberry,

While I'm sure this is distressing, I'm afraid your 8th petition is going to have no different answer than the first seven. Re-petitioning like that is not necessary and indeed burdens the queue.

Let me go over some points on this to help you understand how these are dealt with.

First - you are not ever going to know what happens to an individual, we don't share that information - ever.

Second - there is no such thing as a ninja in WoW. To ninja is to steal, and by virtue of the way the loot system works you cannot loot or roll on something unless the system allows it. Basically if it's allowed, it's not stealing.

Third - that's not to say there may not be scams. You are welcome to report if this is the case and it will be looked into. Again, you won't be informed of the outcome. It is very risky to run on Master Loot in a PUG or with people you cannot trust as you are implicitly giving them permission to distribute loot as they see fit. That doesn't mean they can establish loot rules and totally ignore them - see point two.

Last but not least - even if a scam is established through an investigation that does NOT mean loot will necessarily be distributed. A scammer may be actioned, they may even have the loot stripped from them - that does not guarantee it will be re-awarded or re-distributed.

I hope this clears up any concerns or questions you may have.

Orlyia

#3 - Aug. 11, 2010, 3:01 p.m.

Nothing I said above said nothing would be done.

People that do this - do so at their own peril.

I said we can't tell YOU what will/did happen, and that the outcome of you receiving the loot is not at all guaranteed. Each one of these cases is unique and take quite some time to investigate.