Ninja looter question

#0 - May 19, 2010, 7:21 p.m.
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Yesterday I was in an ICC pug and before the raid started I asked if anything was on reserve. The master looter / raid leader said no, nothing was on reserve. But when we killed Deathbringer the ML took everything out of the chest and left the group.

Can I get him/her banned? We never had a roll on it and the person just took it all. I know I've heard of people getting banned for having the raid roll and then ninjaing when they lose, but I'm not sure about this.
#14 - May 19, 2010, 8:29 p.m.
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Q u o t e:
Yesterday I was in an ICC pug and before the raid started I asked if anything was on reserve. The master looter / raid leader said no, nothing was on reserve


I'm afraid that simply stating no items are "reserved" for a particular run would not likely be considered a clear in-game agreement. It's important that all elements of loot distribution be covered when establishing rules for a group run by Master Looter, and that players within that group seek additional clarification if it's not provided proactively.

For clarity, our policy states the following: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article/17761
Q u o t e:
Okay, so scamming is against the rules…what exactly is a scam?
In terms of loot, making and then breaking a clear in-game agreement * on the way loot will be distributed by a Master Looter can be considered a scam. Unfortunately, some players will make loot agreements they have no intention of keeping to get players to join a dungeon or raid group. In these situations, players who disregard the original agreement and then take (or give away) loot in a different way are potentially violating our Scam Policy. If you believe you have been scammed, please contact In-Game Support.

Please note that if In-Game Support is able to determine a scam has taken place after a clear in-game loot distribution agreement is made, any items involved may be removed from their current owners. In cases where a "rightful" owner can be proven, these items may also be transferred; however, loot will be left unassigned if a "rightful" owner cannot be identified. Due to the privacy associated with these investigations, In-Game Support will be unable to release details regarding an investigation's findings, actions taken, or its final outcome.

* A clear in-game agreement indicates that loot rules are fully defined. Partial agreements that do that wholly explain how loot will be distributed may prevent In-Game Support from assisting. If using Master Looter, please be sure to clarify with your raid group whether or not any items are reserved, what (if any) restrictions will be placed on rolls based on class specializations, and how winners of open rolls will be selected.


You're still welcome to submit a petition and have our In-Game Support staff investigate. Perhaps additional rules were shared that you're not remembering right now, for example. Either way, we'll be happy to look into the matter further and assist if possible. :)