Not skipping optional bosses in heroics !

#0 - March 12, 2010, 7:53 p.m.

How do you deal with groups that insist on killing optional bosses in a heroic ?

Personally I find it aggravating to enter a heroic that can be cleared in 15 minutes, that turns into a 30 minute clear because there are people in greens that are too lazy to farm normal ICC5.

Usually when I'm on my tank alts/mains I say beforehand that I will skip 2/3 bosses. If people don't like it they leave.
It's also almost a given to skip the following nowadays:

DTK: King dread
HoS: Maiden/Stone guy
HoL: 1st boss (if possible)
OK: 1st spider boss, mushroom boss, jedoga.

If people start to insist on doing optional bosses i usually drop group or just continue pulling till the last boss.
I was just in a heroic DTK where we had a DK in greens, a priest in greens and a shadow priest in blues.
I'm not even sure why blizzard's LFG tool would put ICC geared people in groups like this.
Anyway I casually skip dread, then they start insisting on killing him.
I casually shrug it off and proceed to the trash till the last boss.
They then proceed to get stubborn and stand near dread.
So I aggro the entire trash before the last boss, bring it to them, put them in combat, then drop group; and then requeue instantly into heroic AN.

I somewhat regret what I did, but this seems to be a very common frustration nowadays - semi-geared people being put in groups with people in greens, who then slow down the run to a snail's pace.

#36 - March 13, 2010, 1:25 a.m.

Q u o t e:
How do you deal with groups that insist on killing optional bosses in a heroic ?

Personally I find it aggravating to enter a heroic that can be cleared in 15 minutes, that turns into a 30 minute clear because there are people in greens that are too lazy to farm normal ICC5.

Usually when I'm on my tank alts/mains I say beforehand that I will skip 2/3 bosses. If people don't like it they leave.
It's also almost a given to skip the following nowadays:

DTK: King dread
HoS: Maiden/Stone guy
HoL: 1st boss (if possible)
OK: 1st spider boss, mushroom boss, jedoga.

If people start to insist on doing optional bosses i usually drop group or just continue pulling till the last boss.
I was just in a heroic DTK where we had a DK in greens, a priest in greens and a shadow priest in blues.
I'm not even sure why blizzard's LFG tool would put ICC geared people in groups like this.
Anyway I casually skip dread, then they start insisting on killing him.
I casually shrug it off and proceed to the trash till the last boss.
They then proceed to get stubborn and stand near dread.
So I aggro the entire trash before the last boss, bring it to them, put them in combat, then drop group; and then requeue instantly into heroic AN.

I somewhat regret what I did, but this seems to be a very common frustration nowadays - semi-geared people being put in groups with people in greens, who then slow down the run to a snail's pace.

I'm almost always fine with doing an optional boss if someone needs/wants to kill them. At the same time, I completely understand that some might not be okay with it, either in general -- or just in a particular situation, such as if they are time limited. With that being said, I'm of the mindset that if the entire group doesn't mind, than we do it.

If one person objects, the player who needed it is out of luck, unfortunately -- and that's the way it goes. If they have a problem, they can choose to leave.

Just try to remember though, there are so many types of people playing the game, and not everyone has your level of understanding (I'm referring to the social aspects/dynamics of the game), and the "why" varies depending on the individual. While it's human to become frustrated or even angry at times, I don't think it's good to act out based on emotion in-game or real life -- though it's going to happen, especially on a long enough timeline.

I'm guilty.

Lastly -- I just want to state, that a) I had much more that I would've liked to communicate here but didn't want to get too "preachy", for lack of better words, and b) it's important that everyone understand this is how I feel, and am in no way indicating that those who feel differently are wrong.