STOP nerfing classes because of PVP

#0 - Dec. 11, 2009, 10:21 a.m.

Do you guys know how to fix something without nerfing it in PVE? I'm sure its not a easy task but why not after 4 months of PTR testing don't you let things play out a bit before you hit the "blow it up now Key".

This is getting old after all these years cant this be done a better way? PVE is not PVP its time to separate them permanently. You have Mutilate rogues in PVE doing 10K damage nothing is even in the same neighborhood as them and you nerf DK's because they were actually finally doing decent after 1 day? You go and nerf rogues 5 percent and you know what they still are putting up numbers no one can touch so I guess that is "OK" then right?

Ghostcrawler there was a time on beta before DK's were even launched that you used to talk to us and actually listen to people whom play the class daily and not some scrub in PVP with no resilience that got pasted by a DK who knew there class. Either you guys are playing favorites or forgot how to balance without nerfing everything thing to crap. Can DK's please catch a break? We have not had a patch YET TO THIS DATE that hasn't resulted into a total play-style revamp. You messed up tanking you messed up our ability to kill healers now you mess up a buff that was NEEDED for unholy because someone went crying to you guys about getting there face smashed. I'm trying to tell you its not right you owe your gamers better than this. How about you straighten out ALL of our trees for once? Now with a crappy 4 piece T9.5 nerf my damage was crappy and now I see why.

You wonder why DK's are upset do you really have to ask yourself that question? Do you guys have a quota for nerfs to a certain class monthly? I mean combat rogues still do ridiculous numbers but that is ok right? If we dump all of our points to DPS and none for tanking why do we get nerfed if we come close to rogues or beat them does this seem fair and something you would waste your money on every month? To date you have done this same formula for Enhancement Shamans Warlocks Fury Warriors and my favorite Ret Paladins (We told you before the release of the major buff to ret pallys that it was broken and you posted that you wanted to see it live.) at what point do you start to listening to the people who pay you every month? All that being said here is wishing against hope that you unnerf us for good.

Signed Tired of the Nerf Bat

Ghostcrawler

#61 - Dec. 11, 2009, 10:25 p.m.

WoW is a game with PvP and PvE components. We balance around both.

However, the changes to warlocks, DKs and rogues were made largely for PvE reasons. All 3 were too high on parse after parse.

Ghostcrawler

#96 - Dec. 12, 2009, 12:18 a.m.

Q u o t e:
Are these not Nerfs to PVE because of PVP QQ? Would these above patch notes not support the OP's point of view? At this point you have nerfed our total PVE dmg by approx 300 dps or so with just the above listed changes.

The OP was talking about DKs (I think -- it was a little hard to tell), so I assumed this was yet another response to our recent hotfix of Assassination rogues, Unholy DKs and Affliction warlocks. You're talking about Destro changes which were largely made for PvP reasons. We changed Conflagrate to a dot so it wouldn't have big PvE ramifications, and we also buffed the Imp just to make sure Destro wasn't inadvertently nerfed in PvE.