Season 6 Elite Ensembles

#1 - March 20, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

Hey All -

I am posting this here instead of the arena forums for visibility. PvP gear in legion has been a sore spot for the whole expansion, but season 6 has kind of been the culmination, since it was staggered with a raid release (making pvp gear ilevels dramatically below comparable pve content; ironic since the only thing that matters in a pvp instance is ilevel), and it shares elite set appearance with S7, which will last until BFA pre-patch.

The issue at hand now, at season end, is the elite ensembles. Their stated policy is that they do not release the ensembles to vendors until the ensemble is no longer the current skin. Since S7 ensembles will be the same as S5/6 ensembles, they're not going to be released to the vendors to be buyable by those who achieved s5/6 elite. This is frustrating for a lot of us, because that means we will not have access to our rewards until the expansion is virtually over. It would be less frustrating if the elite sets were less RNG and generally more attainable during a season, but..

2k is duelist range (top 3% of a bracket that is ~60k players) for at least 12/16 weeks of the season.
It doesn't become accessible for rivals (top 10% of the bracket) until the last month or so once the season has gone long enough and rating has inflated to that point.
Random drops over 2k are not elite
9 of the possible 17 slot pieces that can drop in your guaranteed elite weekly (once you're over 2k) are not visible set pieces, making it possible to be 2k+ for an entire season and still never complete your set because of unlucky rng. (some of the people on the front page of the pvp leaderboard still don't have the full set)

In previous expansions where gear was bought with currency, people could save currency and purchase entire sets when they hit the rating required for that set. IMO, releasing the set at the end of the season to those who hit the cutoff should be the compromise to alleviate that. However, their stated intent is to not release them in this way while they're still current drops so that there is an exclusive reward for people playing in the next season, since they're the same skin. IMO, that is unsatisfactory. Exclusive rewards are great, but if that's going to be the mentality, each season needs to have its own set. At least a recolor. The system was poorly thought out from the get-go, and the players should not be punished for it.
#releasethesets

Ythisens

Community Manager

#244 - March 20, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

Looking into this guys! Thanks for the feedback, however please do not jump into other threads and derail them as that is something that is against the Code of Conduct. We've been seeing this post throughout the morning and have been tracking it. While we don't have an answer to really give you guys at the moment, we are actively speaking with development and will share any information that we get when we can.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#906 - March 21, 2018, 7:03 p.m.

Hey guys! We've spoken to the development team and we're currently planning to release the ensembles sooner rather than later via a hotfix. We don't have an exact timeline just yet of when this will happen, but its something we will hopefully have out sooner than the end of the season.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#936 - March 21, 2018, 7:15 p.m.

03/21/2018 12:09 PMPosted by Gromolog
Agreed when the timeline is known will please be able to inform us?

We have a generalized timeline right now internally but its met with the usual caveats of development. The hotfix has to be created, then tested, then pushed to the live servers, and verified that it does work. So Development and QA have to find room to squeeze this in an already full schedule.

We don't like giving timelines unless we're 110% sure because literally anything can happen. i.e. hotfix doesn't work, schedules shift around etc.

TL;DR: Soon™ is a real thing sometimes!

Ythisens

Community Manager

#986 - March 21, 2018, 8:26 p.m.

03/21/2018 01:02 PMPosted by Horrific
So, normally at the end of a season you click a button to enable them at the vendor...

This is a phrase you see sometimes but its not actually a literal thing. Every time a season ends, the vendors change, or the items they sell change, they actually do have to be hotfixed in. These are somewhat simple since its a routine thing but it still has to be done, checked, and verified that it works every time.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#997 - March 21, 2018, 8:54 p.m.

03/21/2018 01:41 PMPosted by Xoja
Is there a chance of getting this thread stickied until we get a resolution fulfilled?

Good idea! I'll sticky this here and sticky one in the Arena forums.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#1011 - March 21, 2018, 9:29 p.m.

03/21/2018 02:21 PMPosted by Jiraya
We need a new Holinka... And I don't know if its too soon to ask, but:
- Ythisens, would you like to be our Lead PvP Designer ?

Forewarning, I haven't been able to hit 2.2k rated since Season 8. I may or may not have been riding the TSG Shadowmourne wave.

I do however support AV turtles and will campaign on this platform.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#1045 - March 22, 2018, 1:06 a.m.

03/21/2018 06:00 PMPosted by Sabbatia
I even dare assume a lot of people from this thread would be pretty pissed if they don't release it by next week or so

03/21/2018 05:56 PMPosted by Gromolog
I have faith that since they promised it will get it done either this week or next week but we will see.

This is kinda why we don't like to promise or say when to expect something like this. :/ Its easy to assume that, but this would be most likely be separate from the usual end of season rewards. Just to set the proper expectation I wouldn't expect this in the next week or two.

If something does change though I will update you guys :)

Ythisens

Community Manager

#1146 - March 22, 2018, 8:53 p.m.

03/22/2018 11:00 AMPosted by Hexxes
For your reward you will be exalted with the PvP community.

What's the title for that? This will make or break it as I will grind for any sick title regardless of the content.

03/22/2018 12:23 PMPosted by Shadina
You just see all of them on his back as he talks to us and we're all staring at them with cooldowns popped.

Listen, I'm not taunting you but I won a 1v3 in arena skirmish last night on my Ret so I feel like I might have a chance.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#1277 - March 23, 2018, 10:01 p.m.

03/23/2018 01:23 PMPosted by Hexxes
People on the arena forums are stating the Demonic PvP tabard was just hotfixed and replaced with the same one used in the Ferocious season. The Demonic one was complained about because it looked so bad. From what I can tell so far these reports are true.

Why would that be hotfixed but not the Elite sets? They are both items on the exact same vendor.

Hey guys! This is a bit off-topic for this thread and is a separate issue. It was identified this morning that the previous Demonic Tabard and Cloak didn't look demonic enough so the Ferocious ones were recolored and changed to be the new appearances. Thus looking far more Demonic to match the name.

When you're comparing these things I would suggest looking at the kind of change it is to realize how they're different. For example, an art related change and a change related to adding an item attached to season ratings are very different changes that have different steps to alter them, especially when needing to use the in-game rating systems to verify who can obtain seasonal items from PVP.

I know its frustrating to still not have something you've earned but like I previously stated we have the intention to give this to you guys sooner rather than later. I'm still continually reading the thread and have upped the cap again, as soon as I know more information I'll share it when I can.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#1484 - March 26, 2018, 11:03 p.m.

03/26/2018 03:18 PMPosted by Anticipation
Mr Yak,

Can we expect the sets tomorrow after reset? :)

03/21/2018 06:06 PMPosted by Ythisens
I wouldn't expect this in the next week or two.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#1570 - March 27, 2018, 10:13 p.m.

Hey guys!

Just a friendly update that the usual Code of Conduct rules apply. Do not post off topic replies or they will be deleted and repeated attempts to do so will be be handled appropriately. This thread has been very productive and very civil so far. Thank you to those staying on topic.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#1577 - March 27, 2018, 10:27 p.m.

03/27/2018 03:17 PMPosted by Eoilyn
Deleting comments because we pointed out that the team can hotfix other things in under a day but cant give what the community wants? You literally deleted 3 comments and wont give us direct answers WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?

You should read my previous posts where I explained there is a difference. I also said in that previous post in this thread warning that those discussions were off-topic too. This thread is about the Elite Ensembles and its been extremely productive and civil.

Also please try to avoid just spamming or posting only hashtags. As funny as hashtags can be sometimes its not exactly saying anything >.>

Ythisens

Community Manager

#1594 - March 28, 2018, 12:15 a.m.

I tried to avoid it but I'm going to lock this one for now as it continues to veer off-topic. I'm going to keep it stickied for now and will post any updates I have in this thread.

Ythisens

Community Manager

#1595 - April 3, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

Copying over my reply to the thread in the Arena forums:

"Hey guys! Just a friendly update that with this maintenance we were able to put the Elite Ensemble for seasons 5, 6, and 7 on the vendor. Previously this wouldn't have been obtainable until the end of this current season but we agreed this was too far out for a reward that was already earned. Glad to see you guys noticed the change already and are able to get your sets! :)"

Gonna unsticky this now since its resolved!