Scourge Strike -- Still a problem

#0 - Aug. 27, 2009, 9:58 p.m.
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So ... what is going on with Scourge Strike? We'd like to have some info regarding Unholy Spec's key strike.

Here are the most recent relevant quotes I can find from GC, even after Blizzcon and the 3.2.2 patch note updates.

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That was a direct response to the diseaseless rotations that just spammed strikes. Because DKs use a pseudo combo point system (in that they can use their "finishers" whenever they want), things have strayed into ignoring the finishers or over-utilizing them from time to time.

I suspect it has more to do with the difficulty of keeping diseases up in a PvP environment coupled with the benefits of ranged attacks. The IT glyph is probably a little generous.

Scourge Strike falling behind Obliterate seems to be largely a function of armor pen (a problematic stat these days in many respects). It's not at all ideal, but we don't have a great plan yet to fix it that didn't involve just buffing Scourge Strike (and possibly leading to diseaselessness again).


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I don't think that's the whole issue. If Obliterate just beat Scourge Strike, then Unholy DKs might be using Oblit in PvP. Instead they're going to Icy Touch and Death Coil. Death Coil is supposed to be a bonus, not the centerpiece of the class.


These quotes were in response to posts in a Thread about the return of Shadowfrost for PvP and thus have a decidely PvP focus to them.

I'd like to see a response addressing the Scourge Strike issue with regards to the PvE aspects.


I am aware that when Cataclysm hits, Armor Pen will go away as a gear itemization stat, thus further coloring this conversation, but I am sincerely hoping that DK's aren't expected to wait until the next Expansion is released to get a fix for Scourge Strike.

Can we get a little love, though I know it is fashionable to hate on DK's right now (especially BE Male DK's)?
#42 - Sept. 2, 2009, 8:58 p.m.
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The diseaseless issue wasn't a big problem with Unholy builds per se, but the fact that diseases could potentially be ignored led us to nerf base damage and buff per disease damage of all the strikes. We could potentially have Scourge Strike benefit from diseases more than other strikes.