Blizz: Non-XP Battlegrounds

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All across the board people are complaining about the lack of games available to people with experience turned off, is anyone looking into this?

Have they thrown around the idea of pooling everyone with xp turned off into the same battlegroup ques?

I'm not asking for a solution in 5 minutes, but a blue response simply saying "we understand there is a problem" would be golden, and I wouldnt feel like we twinks are being ignored!

As with all the changes made to the battlegrounds, we are watching this situation very closely. While we don't have any immediate plans to alter the changes we've made or the realm configuration, in order to deal with this issue, we will continue to work toward making this type of gameplay supported without having it impede or effect the experience of other players not interested in this type of interaction.

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All across the board people are complaining about the lack of games available to people with experience turned off, is anyone looking into this?

For a long time we've wanted to allow players to gain experience through Battlegrounds. One major issue with this though, is that we cannot have those players entering twink matches where they just get rolled over and over again, gaining virtually no experience. We don't want players who are participating in Battlegrounds while continuing their leveling experience on the same playing field as those who make the most of their character in a given level bracket and want to stay there.

If there are a lack of matches launching for those with experience gains turned off, it just shows that this isn't an exceedingly popular form of game play, at least not on some Battlegroups.

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Have they thrown around the idea of pooling everyone with xp turned off into the same battlegroup ques?

Unfortunately, there are massive technical limitations that prevent this from being a viable solution.

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I'm not asking for a solution in 5 minutes, but a blue response simply saying "we understand there is a problem" would be golden, and I wouldnt feel like we twinks are being ignored!

I wouldn't say we recognize it to be a problem. There are those who love to twink characters, purposefully trying to stay at a specific level with specific gear just so they're more powerful than the majority of the characters within at least 4 or 5 levels of them. Then there are those who wouldn't mind playing in a Battleground for fun now and then during the leveling process, particularly now that experience is offered. If Battleground queue times for twinks on any given Battlegroup are so long, I think it just goes to show what a small, niche form of game play twinking is.

As a company, we've never officially supported twinking. We've just been allowing it this whole time. Now with patch 3.2, we're technically supporting twinking by allowing players who aren't level capped to play in Battlegrounds without risking leveling up. The only fair way to do this though is to separate the twinks from everyone else, and thus you have whatever is left over in the twink queues.

Edit: What Crygil said too, because it sounded nicer and contained fewer words.

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For a long time we've wanted to allow players to gain experience through Battlegrounds. One major issue with this though, is that we cannot have those players entering twink matches where they just get rolled over and over again, gaining virtually no experience. We don't want players who are participating in Battlegrounds while continuing their leveling experience on the same playing field as those who make the most of their character in a given level bracket and want to stay there.

If there are a lack of matches launching for those with experience gains turned off, it just shows that this isn't an exceedingly popular form of game play, at least not on some Battlegroups.


Unfortunately, there are massive technical limitations that prevent this from being a viable solution.


I wouldn't say we recognize it to be a problem. There are those who love to twink characters, purposefully trying to stay at a specific level with specific gear just so they're more powerful than the majority of the characters within at least 4 or 5 levels of them. Then there are those who wouldn't mind playing in a Battleground for fun now and then during the leveling process, particularly now that experience is offered. If Battleground queue times for twinks on any given Battlegroup are so long, I think it just goes to show what a small, niche form of game play twinking is.

As a company, we've never officially supported twinking. We've just been allowing it this whole time. Now with patch 3.2, we're technically supporting twinking by allowing players who aren't level capped to play in Battlegrounds without risking leveling up. The only fair way to do this though is to separate the twinks from everyone else, and thus you have whatever is left over in the twink queues.

Edit: What Crygil said too, because it sounded nicer and contained fewer words.

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What about the low battleground experience? What is the decision?

It's definitely high on the radar. We'll be discussing this with our development team in the near future.

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What about the low battleground experience? What is the decision?

This is another one of those things that we are watching extremely carefully. Experience in battlegrounds has to be fully weighed before we begin making changes to the amounts awarded.


Edit: Hi again Zarhym.

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i got quoted by 2 different blues in the same thread, is that a record? Do i get an achievement?

Achievement Unlocked: Catch the blues in redundancy posting from two separate locations.

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Does this mean you guys have to fight to the death to see who claims the thread?

No. We work as a team. Dispensing the same information twice so as to reach a wider audience with its message.

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I disagree with this statement.

1)...There's a lot of twinks, we're just divided into 7 level brackets. If you were to divide 80s by 7 in every battlegroup then there'd be far less games available too.

2)...Most players I know have already lost heart with the whole stuff up. So they've already quit.

Well, it seems like a shame for your friends to quit just when we start supporting the portion of the game that they like.

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Well it's unrealistic to ask for 1 SINGLE Twink BG, but why can't we just merge 2 together and turn 13 BGs into 7. As of now there are some BGs and Brackets where queue times are just ridiculous.

The aforementioned "massive technical issues" would still prevent that type of solution to this particular issue.

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Hahahaha the littler nerd crying in the 'BG exp SUCKS' thread just got a blue post and they go on ignoring this thread. Don't waste your time, twinking is more or less dead. Just hope you're some of the people lucky enough to play in a bracket on a battlegroup that's active enough to get no exp BG pops.

It's more along the lines of... we've already made a statement on this issue and our position hasn't changed.

It is, indeed, still something we're looking at. We don't have an immediate solution for players who feel that the "twink" base is too fragmented. We will continue to think on solutions to this issue and discuss the ramifications of any decisions we make. If we eventually get to the point that we are able to make a statement that will change the situation as it stands, we will make it then. Until then, you should feel free to re-read both Zarhym and my initial responses to this thread.