Problems queing in lower bgs

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it's still not working right and I find it hard to believe all 3 of us have corrupted files.

Keep in mind that it may not be that your files are corrupted, but rather that something realm side has changed that requires an update on the client side that did not occur for some reason. There are a multitude of reasons why a UI reset may prove useful. It's also the first trouble shooting step in many cases, since so many issues are resolved by performing a reset =).

I'd like to investigate in greater detail if possible though. Do you think you can try describing in detail exactly what is occurring?

Hey guys?

Can I ask if your groups have a mix of BG Experience enabled and BG Experience disabled players?

For those of you who are still experiencing issues entering a battleground - are you in a party? If so, can you try leaving your party and queuing up then?

Also, are you simply not receiving a queue icon? Are you also unable to interact with the 'enter battleground' button once your queue finally 'pops'?

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Question 1: Not in party.
Question 2: Refer to answer one.
Question 3: Receiving queue icon when i first Que for the battleground.
Question 4: Can "interact with button" Once you click "Enter" The box and Que icon Disappear and will not let us into the battleground.

Thank you for the very specific information. May I ask if this is the character you are queueing with? Also, can I ask which battlegrounds you are attempting to enter? Have you tried all the available battlegrounds?

Hey guys?

As part of the troubleshooting process, it would be useful to me if you could try a full user interface reset. Before you perform the steps, it's a good idea to stash your Addons folder elsewhere, so you can reinstall your Addons with minimal inconvenience after you finish testing the issue.

Here are the steps I use:

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1) *IMPORTANT* Exit the World of Warcraft to your desktop by logging out of the game and exiting. If World of Warcraft isn't closed, then these steps won't have the desired effect.

2) If you used an "installer" for a custom UI, see if it has an "uninstaller" and use it.

3) Inside the World of Warcraft Program Folder, delete the "WTF," "Cache," and "Interface" folders.

4) Restart your computer.

5) Please do not reinstall Addons prior to testing the issue you were experiencing.

6) Make sure that you are using WOW.EXE or LAUNCHER.EXE to start the game. Please do not run any UI installers beforehand, as we want to eliminate them as part of the issue.

7) Upon launching the game, you should see the Intro cinematic movie and be prompted to agree to the Terms of Use. Once you authenticate past the login screen, the “AddOns” button should no longer be visible at the lower left corner of the character selection screen. Both points mentioned previously must hold true if you should complete the aforementioned steps correctly.

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I tried all those steps with those results you listed. No luck for me though when I was finished.

I'm truly sorry to hear it =(. Are you able to successfully queue for and enter battelgrounds with other characters on the same account? If so, what about characters on the same realm?

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Testing the limitations of this issue on Muradin we discover that a single player in the 19 bracket with exp turned off can from the que page see select only join "first available" battle. No games in progress are displayed. On selecting join "first available" the average wait time indicator shows "Unavailable ( last 10 players)".

For level 29 bracket both WSG and AB show the same join "first available" with the same lack of in progress list and with the same average wait time unavailable upon entering Que.

This situation is identical with 2 and 3 players each with exp frozen attempting to join as a group.

In both situations we have waited as long as 3 hours without any entry to a bg or even a popup giving the option.

I initially guessed that perhaps the majority of individuals that frequent the BG's might simply be exploring the new patch content and gearing up mains with the easy mode emblem gear.

As this issue has continued since patch day I find it far more difficult to believe that there are not 10 horde and alliance players that have frozen their exp in the 19 or 29 brackets and have sought to enter the bg's.

With the number of realms available, The number of 19 and 29 twinks prior to the latest patch it seems reasonable to assume that there is a flaw on the blizzard side of this issue.

We exp frozen twinks from Muradin hope that the problem that is preventing us from enjoying the battlegrounds as we did before blizzard decided to separate the two types of player and implement experience gain into battle grounds is resolved as soon as possible.

MM

While the low numbers of players with frozen experience queuing is a valid concern, the issue that we're addressing in this thread are players who queue, receive their notification to enter the battlegrounds, click that notification, but then do not enter the battle.

If you would like to express your concerns about the situation regarding Experience Disabled queuing, you may do so on our PvP forum or even our Suggestions forum though.

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I tried all those steps with those results you listed. No luck for me though when I was finished.

Alright, I'm trying something, Duckybekers, please stay off this character until I am done. :)

You can log into the character again, Duckybekers. I was unable to queue you for the battleground either which means it is definitely something on our side. Our Technicians are looking into the issue.

Anyone also experiencing this can you please post the name and realm of the character you are unable to accept the BG invite on and let us know if you are able to accept the invitation with alternate characters on that realm.

I have an additional question:

Have you been able to get into BG's since 3.2 was implemented? Did you experience this issue yesterday?

Ok, after poking around a bit it seems that the characters that are unable to enter a BG when the queue pops up have their XP gain turned off.

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Same problem here, doesnt allow me to enter the BG when the queue pops. I have not messed with the BG Experience guy at all.

My records show different, Whatsonurface, on 8/8 at 21:47 GMT you turned off your XP gain.

Malone, of the characters that you listed. Malone, Irishirish and Irishmage should be able to enter a BG when the enter option pops up.

Irishrogue and Feardotfear have their XP turned off.

Our Quality Assurance Team has been forwarded the issue. In the meantime for those of you who are able to queue for a BG but are unable to enter once the invite is sent out it is very likely that you have your XP gain turned off. You will need to turn it back on in order to participate in Battlegrounds.

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found the Problem for you Blizz..You have to get rid of honor earning in SW to get into PvP..You have to gain Exp for it..I can log now if I get Exp not honor

Yes, I discovered the same thing, Malone, unfortunately some information that was provided in this thread made it a little difficult to track down the cause since some said that they had not turned off experience gain. :)

Even your post threw me off a bit because it listed all 5 characters even though, from what I could find, not all of them were affected.

Thank you for your patience everyone. Hopefully the overall issue can be resolved.

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Ok I have tried my other toons that have exp instead of pvp point (honor) and they wont work unless I switch them to honor not exp.So nothing is fixed..Its something in the restart today imo.

I'm sorry, Malone, but I'm not understanding what you mean.

What switch from honor to experience? You gain honor if experience is on or it is off.

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If I pay the 10g to go back to gaining exp I can join a bg .

Simple if I want Exp for a BG then I can join.If I dont want Exp for a bg I cant join

If your 80, Malone, you can't earn experience which makes the whole thing a bit irrelevant.

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Speaking of which, is there any news on whats happening with players in most brackets with exp turned off? People are getting irritated with the 628940 hour queues.

I'm sorry, Bloodstain, we were not speaking of queue times for non-xp earning characters. The system is still new so it would be best to give it time. If you wish to share your views or concerns regarding the non-XP BG's you would be better served by posting in the PvP Discussion Forum or even the Suggestion Forum if you wish to provide your feedback regarding this system.

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I know for a FACT that I did not talk to that guy or in any way pay him gold. Im a very cheap person. I did however just go talk to him and pay him the 10g and I could join a BG and finally got my AV daily done. So I guess problem solved? I dunno seems VERY weird to me. Considering I had no problems all last week doing BGs untill today.

Does anyone else have access to your account, Watsonurface? From what I can see, someone on your account did visit the NPC and disabled experience gain for the character.

I'm glad you were able to join your BG now. :)

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Question! Do level 80 players gain less honor with the experienced turned on, and more if the experience were turned off (supposing the BG queue-entering would currently work this way)?

No, it makes absolutely no difference. It almost sounds like there is some confusion between this and another game, where if you did not receive experience you gained more influence/infamy. :)

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But since GMs can't post on suggestion thread I am just wondering if the whole problem has been acknowledged.

Game Masters also aren't liaisons with Development, Bloodstain. I can say that our Developers and Community Managers read the Suggestion Forum, as well as many of the other forums, on a continual basis, to believe that player concerns and feedback regarding this issue are not known would be silly; especially with a 500 page thread. :)

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/sigh I read your comment again and doubled checked and have spent 40g or so on one toon for the same results..I CAN CHOSE EXP OR NOT WITH THE PATCH..Sry for caps but now I am just frustrated that you work for blizz forums and have no idea what you are saying.

Yes, I know what you can choose, Malone. The option is to disable or enable experience gain. As I said that is irrelevant because you are level 80 and don't earn experience anyway. So why are you paying to turn off something you don't get?

I'm sorry, Malone, but it seems that you are the one who may be misunderstanding me.

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Not spamming but I cant get exp at 80 but still have the choice!

Yes, Malone, you are correct. Simply because the option exists doesn't mean it is useful to you.

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i have a 60 twink hunter and 29 rogue on greymane. i cant enter the BG's aswell (my xp gain is turned off) but the invite doesent disapear, it dont even pop up. the alliance emblem next to my mini map says unavialable and the time in Q keeps counting. i can join BG's when my xp is on..

now i have other horde players on blackwing lair and it goes the same for them. the only addon i have is skada witch is a dps meter an it works fine.

i dont know what the problem is but i would very much like help if this problem is on my end please help it would be very thankful.


Thanks for reading! - Awmandude, greymane

I don't believe there is an issue here, Getbagd, the option doesn't pop up because there are no BG's available for you until the minimum number of players join the queue.

The issue we are talking about in this thread is when you queue for a battleground, you receive the pop up invitation box to enter the battleground and when you click it the box disappears and you don't enter the BG.

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I have to pay 10g to gain exp even thoe at lvl 80 I cant get exp..I am doing that just so I can join a BG. Thats all I am saying. If I turn off Gain exp (pay 10g again) I cant enter a BG..

What?

Malone, do you understand what the option that Behsten gives is for?

It is for those who are not level capped to stop their experience gain. You don't have to pay to disable your experience gain. You never had to pay to have it turned off.

Somehow you became confused regarding this matter and you paid the NPC to turn off your experience gain, thus preventing you from being able to enter level 80 BG's.

As I said before, simply because the option exists it doesn't mean that it will help you.

Your are level 80, you don't need to turn off experience gain, it comes naturally. So why select the option?

If XP gain for the character is disabled, Malone, you'll need to enable it to access the BGs. As we discovered by using the information gathered in this thread there is currently an issue that prevents people from accepting a BG invite if they are level 80 and have disabled their experience gain by paying the 10 gold at that NPC.

Once you have re-enabled your experience gain, for the love of all that is good in this world, STOP disabling it!

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it is an issue cuz i can join bg's when my xp is on and the bg's will be full of other players. then if i was to turn the xp gain off right after i get out of the bg it will say unavailable next to the mini map. so waht gives?

There are two different queues, Getbagd. There is one queue for players who have their experience gain enabled and there is another queue for players who have decided that they do not wish to gain experience aka twinks.

You have said yourself that you can queue but the pop up invitation never pops up. That is because there are not enough people who have turned off their experience gain queued up. If there are not enough players to start a BG match the invitation will not be sent out until their are.

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I cant..If I disable it I wont get my pvp points for the daily pvp .If I enable it I can play pvp..So.. Hmmm something is still screwie

The daily PvP quest? The Call to Arms quest? Just to be clear on what we are talking about.

The only time your character will not gain honor, which I assume is what you are calling your "PvP points", is if your honor is capped.

Completing the Daily PvP quest will award honor if your experience gain is disable or if it is enabled.

Now, since there is currently an issue with level 80's entering a Battleground if they have disabled their experience gain, you will need to make sure your XP gain is not disabled. Since you can't gain experience at level 80, there is no reason that this should have been turned off in the first place, but if you did disable XP, enabling it again will allow you to join a battleground when the invitation is sent.

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ohh so you your saying that only people with there xp turned off can only join that bg(s) with there xp off?

Correct. It is a matching system that enabled "twinks" to battle other "twinks".

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Battlegrounds

* Battleground experience has arrived!
o Players will now be awarded experience for completing objectives and actions that yield honor in Battlegrounds (honorable kills not included).
o Players who do not wish to gain experience through PvP can visit Behsten in Stormwind or Slahtz in Orgrimmar - both located near the Battlemasters in either city - and turn off all experience accumulation for the cost of 10 gold.
o Disabling experience gains will prevent a player from gaining experience through any means available in the game.
o Players with experience gains turned off who compete in Battlegrounds will face off only against other players with experience gains turned off.
o Behsten and Slahtz can reinstate experience gains for players, for a 10 gold fee of course. Any experience that would've been accumulated if experience gains were enabled cannot be recovered.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/

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Matters when my daily pvp points arent there

Malone, I think it would be important to figure out what you mean by your daily pvp points. What quest are you attempting to do? Why do you think you are not getting the (honor?) daily pvp points if your experience gain is enabled?

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I appreciate the help but its not that.I know if I switch between honor and exp gaining I can and cant enter a BG

You are not switching between honor and experience, Malone. I don't know where you picked up this concept but you are mistaken and it is confusing everything that we are trying to tell you.

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Ok..I have to accept getting exp points (even thoe at lvl 80 I cant) in order to join a BG..If I get exp (which I cant at lvl 80) I lose my daily PvP points which is 1243 or so in pvp points I can spend in Champions Hall.

Malone...

You are 80, you are not going to gain experience, not unless the level cap is raised.

You will not gain experience with the XP gain disabled.

You will not gain experience with the XP gain enabled.

You will not gain experience.

Your daily PvP quest will give you the honor that it states when you pick up the quest.

It will give you that amount of honor if your XP gain is disabled.

If will give you that amount of honor if your XP gain is enabled.

You will gain the honor if you complete the quest and turn it in.

There is an issue, a bug, that prevents level 80 characters from entering a battleground if they have spoken with the NPC and turned off their XP gain.

If you want to participate in the Battleground before the issue/bug is fixed, you will need to enable your XP gain.

That will have NO affect on how much honor you gain, you will not gain any experience by having the option enabled. You WILL be able to enter a Battleground when invitations are sent out.

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Ty for your time but I am not getting my daily pvp points. I know you practically had to spell it out for me but I still am having a prob ingame with pvp points

Have you picked up the daily quest, Malone? The quest is currently: Call to Arms: Alterac Valley

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Ok i figured out how to fix it. So you have to reenable the experience gain in bg's. But blizzard your a major fail. So NOW i have to do alterac valley with the people that are lvl 71-80 unstead of a bunch of level 80's like it should be. GJ blizzard.

That is the bracket, Rowdyboy. There is no "80 only" bracket.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/info-alteracvalley.html