Prot Warriors: buff better than nothing

Q u o t e:
Let me save you the disappointment; GC lied to you. GC is in the business of keeping people paying Blizzard, which does not, as a matter necessity, entail keeping them happy. Only happy *enough* to keep paying. If you truly believe what he has to say to you regarding class balance, well thats great and I won't attempt to convince you otherwise aside from doing what I am now - pointing out the obvious facts. Otherwise, don't indulge your willful ignorance and continue trying to defend him to people who have seen his crap enough times to know what he is doing.

Let's follow that logic for a moment. Why would GC lie about this? Clearly we're not afraid to upset the community when Blizzard decides to nerf a particular class or spec or refuse to buff another class or spec. So what motivation could there possibly be to lie about this? To spare us the community's righteous indignation? We get that anyway. :)

We think warrior tanks need some help. We do not think they are as far behind as some of these forum posts would have you believe, and we do not see many progression-oriented guilds replacing their warrior MTs. The arguments about who is the best tank tend to get pretty vicious because players think it could mean the difference between them getting to raid or not.

Players play WoW because they're having fun. The vast majority of players do not participate in forum discussions. They're not hanging on in desperation because they think they might eventually get buffed at the end of the tunnel. They think it's worth having a subscription to WoW or they don't. Trying to somehow string players along as you suggest would not only be transparent to players, it would have a very limited impact given the size of the WoW player base.

We value interaction with the community, but don't overstate the power of these forums.

Q u o t e:
I totally agree with the bulk of your post. I think the problem most of us have is that warriors are still using some older mechanics that are "clunky" and/or have band-aid fixes for issues that have cropped up this expansion, whereas the other tanking classes have gotten a pretty hefty overhaul for this expansion.

There are some mechanics we'd like to change with warriors, as I have already stated. Having to spam Heroic Strike is definitely one of them. Rage starvation is never fun (which is not the same as "I can ignore rage.") This is a slightly different argument that whether or not warriors have the stats they need to do the job, which seems to be the bigger concern in this forum at the moment. I am personally not particularly interested in who is the "easier" tank. I don't think any of them are significantly different from each other. You still have to know when to use your cooldowns, when to swap your gear, how to coordinate with your raid and when it's you that's the problem and not your class.

I think it's easy to argue against your point that warriors have not gotten a pretty hefty overhaul this expansion. We changed the warrior Protection tree a lot more than the paladin Protection tree or the Feral tree. We made you press Shield Block less often and Shield Wall more often. We changed Thunderclap and Devastate and Shield Slam and so forth. My point here is: don't dilute your arguments. I hear a lot of players saying that warrior survivability is lower than other tanks. Okay, that is feedback we can use. I hear them saying, as you did, that some of the mechanics still need to be updated. That is feedback we can use. Saying you are neglected or somehow other tanks got more changes than you or whatever... that is hard to use. We don't balance around "neglect." We balance around numbers. Theorycrafted numbers and simulations are valuable. Actual encounters with a boss are even more valuable.