I ninja'd my guild bank.

#0 - June 18, 2009, 7:10 a.m.

As the title suggests, I'm one of those low-down, dirty guild bank ninjas. I was an officer in the guild for a very long time and practically bought our five tabs at the insistence(whining) of lower-ranking guild members and the guild master who was too cheap to toss in more than a gold a week and not even allow his officers repairs. Afterward, I made sure to send in-game mail to all of the other officers and the guild master explaining my reasons for leaving and taking everything in the bank. No Runed Orbs or anything of that value were taken.

Now as Vrakthris, a Blizzard Poster, stated in a post on 01/13/2008:

Q u o t e:
Permissions of a guild bank (i.e. who is trusted enough to be able to pull items and coin out of the guild bank) rests solely in the hands of your Guild Leader, Skew. Withdrawing items from the guild bank that you have permission to pull out is not against our Terms of Use and therefore we would be unable to become involved.

I am sorry for the distress this may have caused you and your guild.

They also stated this in the same thread:

Q u o t e:
A guild member is able to do only what the Guild Leader allows. If you believe there was some kind of scam involved the Guild Leader can submit a petition to inquire. One of our Game Masters can investigate and make that determination.

Since this wasn't a scam of any sort and just a disgruntled officer in the guild, there shouldn't be any reason for this to be a bannable offense, correct?

Vrakthris

#11 - June 18, 2009, 7:36 a.m.

Q u o t e:
But it wasn't a scam and I did not commit fraud. I merely decided that I no longer wanted to be in the guild and took my payment for the tabs. There was interest.

Technically speaking, Euf, anything given to a guild is used for the good of that guild and is considered forfeit. Providing gold or items for the benefit of the guild is not generally considered conditional. It isn't that the guild is able to keep such donations as long as you decide to be a member and that if you decide to leave you are able to remove what you believe to be fair compensation for your donations.

To Donate, by its very definition means: to present as a gift, grant, or contribution; make a donation of, as to a fund or cause. Which is what is done when you give to your guild.

Q u o t e:
Since this wasn't a scam of any sort and just a disgruntled officer in the guild, there shouldn't be any reason for this to be a bannable offense, correct?

As stated in the quotes by me that you posted, Euf, we generally do not become involved in guild disputes. If an incident is reported to us we will, of course, investigate the matter but in most cases we will stay out of guild relations.

If the removal of a portion of items/gold is to such a degree that it adversely affects the guild, and it is reported to us, we may consider such item/gold removal a violation of our scamming policy and take necessary actions to rectify the situation.

I hope that clarifies things, Euf.

Malkorix

#39 - June 18, 2009, 7:36 p.m.

The ultimate point here is that if sufficient items are removed from the bank to constitute injury to the guild (something we determine), then we may very well take action against the player in question.

This question has been answered, so I'm locking the thread now.