Ret Depth is about 3 inches

#0 - June 19, 2009, 8:31 p.m.
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I may have misunderstood but I thought the goal was to make ret have more depth rather than the button spamming face rolling spec that it is today.

The current changes Do nothing to increase ret Depth AoW procs Giving you the option of FoL or Exorcism is not a choice because the answer is always Exorcism. That is if you have a global cooldown.

CS going to 4 seconds with our global cooldown at 1.5 takes the old problem of all our cooldowns running into eachother and makes it worse. We still spam buttons with no regard to which one we're pressing. We will get 5 stacks of Vengeance up and we will hit whatever comes up first and if we have a global to spare we'll pop off a art of war proc'd exorcism but that will rarely ever happen.

You have succeeded in reducing ret paladin burst damage in PvP at a heavy cost. In PvE Our single target damage will either idle where it currently is or go down. Our No thought AoE which was where we shined as a class will still require no thought but now will be not worth mentioning. with Judgement of Light dead to us the only raid utility we bring is 3% Damage and 3% haste which means we bring no more of a buff than most Pures(and less than some) and still suffer the hybrid tax.

Ret needed the Burst nerf I don't deny that. But what it really needed was a more complex and challenging combat system that required skill. What you have is a Face Roll spec that doesn't have any offensive utility and whose defensive utility doesn't win arena matches and still gets nerfed at every turn. In PvE we'll be lucky to maintain our place as Middle of the pack(among hybrids).
#14 - June 19, 2009, 9:44 a.m.
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people are already saying we'll lose 5+ percent dps, maybe more


Nobody has any idea of the numbers yet so they are guessing at best. PvP burst damage (say in the first 4 GCDs) should go down. PvP damage over time should be about the same (modulo the resilience changes). PvE sustained damage should go up.