#196 - June 6, 2009, 10:29 p.m.
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GC, quantity does matter actually... You can't expect everyone in the game to come to the forums and post about these classes, But to those that take their time and do.. you need to take that into value too. This is like saying players come to the forums to tell you a problem and you just throw it back us saying "we don't believe you". Sure there will always be false arguments/trolls and arguments based on experience which is true, but don't you think that's your job to figure out which posts are right or wrong? I don't want to insult but so far there has been tons of occasions where you have been wrong and would just not listen to the players (eg ret pallies in 3.0).
The threshold for us isn't that every player of a certain class posts. The threshold is a strong argument. Our job is absolutely to figure out which post is right and wrong. But that means when we sometimes say "We don't believe you" that has to be okay. Otherwise every post is by definition right.
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Do you even consider yourself wrong sometimes? Or is it the stuck up attitude of a dev " I design this game so i am always right". People complain about resto druids, ret, arms ,destro,frost mages, dks, holy pallies, rogues and disc priests are right and wrong, but to the people who actually read the forum and pay attention.. you have been ignoring the facts and just looking at your numbers. We both have seen trends of certain classes getting extremely popular and this is also the case with RMP.. but i swear to god there has always been a thing in my heart yelling out Ghostcrawler is extremely biased for rogues and mages and these posts by you are literally screaming the same.
I don't know what this means. Numbers are facts. Forum posts are almost always opinions, though sometimes backed up by facts. We are wrong plenty. If we weren't, you'd never see balance changes. The rogues and mages are as critical of us as everyone else.
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I just hope you're aware of how incredibly poorly people quote RMP representation statistics on the forums.
One person says "RMP has 35% representation above 2.2k!" and a bunch of others start parroting it. But what none of them realize is what they're actually quoting is that RMP has 35% representation of the top 5 comps in 3v3. RMP at 2.2k+ is less than 7%. I don't think you can say that's a huge problem at that level.
The number goes WAY up when you look at the top 100 3v3 teams, but I think that has to do with the skill cap of RMP as compared to most other comps. A lot of really good sponsored players play RMP, because it is good, it is fun, and in general it is more respected than, say, most Cleave comps.
There isn't a magic number to balance around. It isn't a small tournament, the top 100 players, or only the teams with scores of over 2000. We owe it to even low-rated players to have a relatively balanced PvP experience. It is entirely possible (and I'm sure you can come up with examples) of classes or comps that are hard to beat except by the best players, who trounce them. This means they never show up at the highest ratings, but are ominant down below. Does that mean it's balanced? No.
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You realize you are posting in a thread started by a troll? heh.
That doesn't mean every player who posts here is a bad. The community, IMHO, places too much emphasis on the first poster of a thread. You see all the time good OPs whose threads go downhill and you see trolls in threads that eventually go places. There are a dozen or more threads right now on the MLG tournament. I tend to pick threads on their topic, not the original poster.
