Exorcism needs to be toned down.

#0 - April 17, 2009, 3:44 a.m.
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Logged on the last couple nights to do some of twink PVP and check out the changes, Ret is doing EXACTLY what got them nerfed in Arena, only in low level PVP now - they put up their shield for immunity, then proceed to beat you to death while you can't fight back. The Exorcism change+ bubble has made Ret's in 39's almost unbeatable. I say almost, because if they have a bubble on cooldown, then at least I have an even shot.

I got crit tonight in 39 AB for 835 damage, then judged for 400+ damage, then they bubbled, and I was dead. And nit-picked me apart. This wasn't one time. This is every twink paladin I come across.

I have an 80 prot paladin as well, in terrible gear for my ret spec, I'm critting for 4.5 k in nothing but crafted epics and dungeon blues. I can put in so much burst on this terriblely geared character that I'm at the very least going 1 for 1 each time I spirit rez, 1 kill, die. Seriously, with my gear it should be move like 1 kill, die 4-5 times like the way my Mage (and Warlock) was for a while with no resilience.

With all the hoopla about twink nerfs in this patch, Ret paladins didn't get taken down enough, and it's because of Exorcism. It needs a look at, and honestly, I love the ranged damage my pally can do now, but I think the damage the ranks can do needs to come down a tad.

Yeah, yeah, so says the caster, QQ, I can dig it. I'm not asking for a nerf (though it is obviously going to be) but at least make the fight fair for both sides here.
#13 - April 17, 2009, 6:49 a.m.
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Exorcism may be a PvP issue, particularly given its range. This is one of those cases though where if we just nerfed it, Ret probably would not be PvE viable. If we decide it's an issue, we will have to proceed carefully.
#220 - April 17, 2009, 6:04 p.m.
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There are many fallacies in this thread. They include:

1) Because a twink mentioned the issue, it can't be valid.
2) Because some players laugh at Ret, it's not fair to nerf them.
3) Because we nerfed Conflagrate quickly, it's not fair to do anything but also nerf Exorcism quickly.
4) It's okay to force Ret to respec to Holy or Prot for PvE since we forced Destro to respec Affliction for PvE.
5) "Everyone" agrees Ret is terrible in PvE,
6) "Everyone" agrees Ret is terrible in PvP.
7) "Everyone" agrees Ret is overpowered in PvP.

I look forward to the many quotes that include the above without my saying "We think these are fallacies." :)