Whats going on with Elemental shaman dmg ?

#0 - April 23, 2009, 11:27 p.m.

Why my dps is lower then it was in 3.09 ? i started to get better gear from Ulduar and i hit for less on same mobs with same buffs

If our dmg was nerfed say so if not plis look into it.I hit about 2-3k less with lava burst and around 800 less with lv

Ghostcrawler

#5 - May 6, 2009, 5:07 p.m.

Here are a few possibilities:

1) There is some bug related to dual-spec. We are fairly confident this is not a problem. It did have some bugs when 3.1 first launched, but we think we have caught them all. Therefore we think this issue is just a red herring complicating the rest of the discussion.

2) Elementals suffered a lot more from losing 5% crit from the Improved Scorch et al. change than did other casters. However, balance druids and some warlocks, also reasonably crit dependent, did not seem to drop.

3) Ulduar fights require a lot more movement, so Elementals can't cast as many spells. (I'm talking about direct damage spells here, not totems.)

4) There is some bug with Lava Burst or another spell that we cannot yet locate. We have looked at this a few times and everything seemed to be working correctly, but we can't completely eliminate this as a problem.

As I have said in the other, longer thread, we need to understand the cause of the problem before we go making any shotgun style changes that may or may not fix it.

I will also point out that the Ulduar set for Elementals is a pretty decent upgrade. You should be in a better relative position with full Ulduar gear than you were with full Naxx gear.

Ghostcrawler

#30 - May 6, 2009, 6:04 p.m.

Let's please keep this thread on Elemental shamans and not other classes or item design philosophy. Don't make intelligent players (or blue posters) have to search for useful information through a lot of noise.

Meandering conversations don't make for great discussions -- it is not strictly necessary to post just because something pops into your mind.

Ghostcrawler

#189 - May 9, 2009, 12:37 a.m.

As I posted in the other active thread on this topic, we still cannot find any bugs with Elemental. We looked at a lot of numbers from before and after 3.1 and (except for the lower crit values) the numbers don't seem very different. It could be that other classes, notably rogues and Feral druids, just improved.

Nonetheless, we do think Elemental is a little low so there is likely to be a small buff coming. I feel obligated to add the standard no promises caveat.