More regen nerfs?

#0 - April 10, 2009, 3:46 a.m.
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Mana Regeneration: The amount of mana regeneration derived from intellect and spirit has been reduced by 40%; however, talents that allow for mana regeneration while in combat have been increased. As a result, in-combat regeneration for classes with those talents will stay the same, while out-of-combat regeneration will be lower.


So intellect AND spirit now? The notes never said anything about intellect until recently, so what's the deal?
#3 - April 10, 2009, 6:50 p.m.
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So intellect AND spirit now? The notes never said anything about intellect until recently, so what's the deal?


The notes weren't changed so much as clarified from what it was originally. We tend to do that as we progress through the testing process based on either player confusion, feedback, or internal feedback of what might need further clarification. We wanted to make sure the correlation between spirit and intellect was clear.

The mana regeneration formula has always been based on the combination of spirit and intellect. Generally speaking, when people are referring to spirit being nerfed relative to intellect, their focus is on Replenishment which operates as a percentage of your mana (Replenishes 0.25% of maximum mana every sec. ), so having more intellect will increase your mana bar.
#6 - April 10, 2009, 6:59 p.m.
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Stop trying to stir up *%##.

What the community calls "spirit regen" is actually a mathematical formula involving intellect, spirit, an <some constant>.

<some constant> is being lowered by 40%, thereby lowering the overall value of spi/int based regen by 40%.


I don't think the original poster was trying to stir anything up so much as confused at the change in how we chose to word the note. As I explained, it was this sort of confusion that prompted the change in the note itself to make it clear what is being affected.
#10 - April 10, 2009, 7:19 p.m.
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If by "always" you mean "since patch 2.4". :P

Thinking about it, that change is barely a year old, isn't it?


While true there were changes added since 2.4 in regard to the formula, that doesn't change the fact that intellect and spirit work hand in hand in affecting mana regeneration. It wasn't our intent to confuse anyone with the note, and it's one reason why we make it clear that the notes are subject to change. If we can find a way to better clarify what it is we have changed, we do. We do not claim perfection and the notes aren't meant to go into detail necessarily, but we do try to make them as clear as possible.

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@Nethaera : I think the patch notes would be more clear if you stated that the oo5 mana regen is reduced by 40%, while the FSR mana regen (or call it "combat" or "casting" mana regen) remains unchanged.

With such a statement, you would have 2 types of readers:
- those who know what it means : no issue
- those that have no clue what is FSR and oo5 : they don't play healing druid or priest, and they don't read patch notes anyway, so no issue

What the OP states is that this new wording could be interpreted as a Replenishement nerf of 40%, which it is not.

@Nethaera : Ghostcrawler seems to post on sundays, and fridays... tell him to get some rest... and he's welcome here. Have a great Easter Weekend. Today is Good Friday, so make it Good :)


We try to avoid using too much terminology that can be considered more for the "hardcore" players, so thus why we just state it as affecting in-combat or out-of-combat mana regeneration.

I'll pass the word to Ghostcrawler, but like the rest of us, we just can't quit you.
#12 - April 10, 2009, 7:33 p.m.
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And we appreciate that you update notes, and re-clarify them! It actually is a fun hobby of mine to comb through the patch notes, and look for grammatical/spelling errors.

...I can't be the only one that does that!!

...Right?!! O_o

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Anyone?!


You and everyone else. ;) It always seems no matter how many eyes we have on them, something is bound to slip through.