Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.

#0 - Feb. 25, 2009, 4:45 p.m.
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If you are taking the ghetto hearth ability away at least lower the cooldown to 30 minutes on hearthstones.

An hour is simply too much time when the average task takes anywhere from 15-45 minutes.
#306 - Feb. 27, 2009, 12:12 a.m.
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You know, there was a time before "ghetto hearthing" was possible and you had to rely on your hearthstone cooldown, or a mage port. I know it's crazy to even try and imagine such harsh living conditions.

I will tell you what, guys. I'll bring this up with the designers. Though the hearthstone is reasonable, since many of you have become used to "ghetto hearth" style travel, it may be deemed an appropriate change.

I can make no promises.

Update: Alright, all -- we're going to make the cooldown on hearthstones 30 minutes when 3.1.0 releases. Enjoy your sweet victory.

Thanks to those who provided feedback constructively.
#328 - Feb. 27, 2009, 12:23 a.m.
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to be fair, the world was around half the size back then...


To be fair, there also weren't one way portals to major cities from places like Dalaran.

To be fair, there were less people playing back then per realm, meaning less potential to find a mage port.

To be fair, you can still still get from a major city to Dalaran via convential methods.

To be fair, there is more QQ on hearthstone cooldowns in this thread then there were back in those days over the course of a year.

To be fair, my mom says hi.
#331 - Feb. 27, 2009, 12:24 a.m.
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You know, there was a time when the wow world wasn't so large too. We believe you'll do the right thing.


You'll do the right thing and scroll down. :D
#348 - Feb. 27, 2009, 12:31 a.m.
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Can we get some constructive comments from Blizzard about plans for the Hearthstone/Dual Hearthstone in future WoW revisions? Thank you.


I'm being honest and leveling with everyone -- using a bit of humor, that's constructive. If you require a more direct response, then here you go. Hearthstone cooldown will remain one hour. Perhaps this will change in the future, but no plans to do at this time.

One hour is very reasonable, and there are other means available to get from point A to B.
#395 - Feb. 27, 2009, 1:13 a.m.
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To be fair, you also didn't make us go to old content in order to get anything of value done. This is a quality of life change, not a big problem Eyonix.

To be fair, maybe you shouldn't mock your customer base. That up there was pretty immature and rude.


I'm not attempting to offend or mock anyone. For years, I've made every attempt to review player feedback and understand where someone's coming from when they have a concern, even when they are emotionally driven and haven't thought things through. I will do this, even when I personally don't agree with the concern.

I will do this even when the concern barely resembles anything reasonable.

The complaints concerning the hearthstone cooldown, is really pushing limits and to be blunt reads as "QQ". Again, I'm not trying to offend, I'm just being honest. This doesn't for a moment mean that I won't bring it up to the game designers.

It's my job to provide them with every major topic, despite my own feelings, and despite how well I can accurately predict what their response will be.
#408 - Feb. 27, 2009, 1:30 a.m.
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Well to be honest thanks for letting me know early so i could cancel my subscription to world of waitcraft.



You're really going to quit the game exclusively based on the fact that we fixed a bug that restored the intended method of how one returns to their bound location? I would never attempt to convince anyone (especially those I don't know) what decisions they should or shouldn't make, but I can't help but find your reaction extremely surprising.

I don't know if you're trolling, or stating something you don't really mean

In any case, while I don't agree with the complaints, I am sorry that you've become so upset, and I do very much wish I could relate more to someone's desire to quit a game over an issue such as this.
#426 - Feb. 27, 2009, 1:40 a.m.
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I will tell you what, guys. Like I said earlier, I'll bring this up with the designers. Though the hearthstone is reasonable, since many of you have become used to "ghetto hearth" style travel, it may be deemed an appropriate change.

I can make no promises.
#434 - Feb. 27, 2009, 1:46 a.m.
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thank you very much, and once again sorry :(


There's no need to be sorry, honestly. This is a discussion forum for the game, and you guys aren't always going to agree with one and other, and I'm not always going to agree with you. That doesn't mean I won't present your feedback, nor does it mean we can't love each other. :D
#439 - Feb. 27, 2009, 1:48 a.m.
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Alright, all -- we're going to make the cooldown on hearthstones 30 minutes when 3.1.0 releases. Enjoy your sweet victory.

Thanks to those who provided feedback constructively.
#577 - Feb. 27, 2009, 4:52 a.m.
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Eyonix could not repel QQ of that magnitude =(


The "QQ", which I even pointed out didn't impact this decision at all. My job is to present feedback made by players to the design team, and I've become fairly adept at ignoring the noise - and tend to focus only on constructive core points. I gathered the fundemental and most legitimate concerns players had with the changes, and ultimately the decision was made simply because we had allowed the "ghetto hearthing" method of travel to persist long enough that not being able to do so, would feel somewhat punitive to players -- the hearthstone cooldown change compensates for this change.
#596 - Feb. 27, 2009, 5:08 a.m.
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That is like saying "People have been getting under stormwind since the first release of WoW so since we have not blocked this ability since then we will now make it easyer for people to get down there"


No, it's really not.
#612 - Feb. 27, 2009, 5:22 a.m.
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It has probably been said already. The funny thing with his first post was how wrong he was. There was "unstuck" option which would give 2 or 3 "ghetto hearths" so you could basically hearth every 4 times an hour in vanilla wow..

30 mins seems fair. For non shaman and mages 1hr was painful.


Actually, there was a time before "unstuck" worked as you've described. As much as it's exciting for people to see me make mistakes, be wrong, or just plain fail -- there was a time when the hearthstone was the only way to "hearth".