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Now that you've fixed the Dirty Deeds bug...

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Kallistae
#0 - Feb. 14, 2009, 3:13 p.m.
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Can we get our 50% poison multiplier back on Mutilate?

You've already admitted that you balanced rogue pve dps around several bugs which, once fixed, ended up causing our dps to be far below what it should be. You're about to do the same thing to Mutilate in pvp.

You took 20% of its damage away because it was double-dipping on Dirty Deeds, and now that you've fixed that bug it's 20% below where it should be. Please don't balance rogues against an already-fixed bug in pvp too.

Revert Mutilate. If it's still too powerful even with the bug fixed, tone it down, but clearly you felt that a 20% nerf was right. You've just taken away that 20% twice, so it's time to give the 50% poison multiplier back.
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Ghostcrawler
#69 - Feb. 15, 2009, 6:40 p.m.
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I'll attempt to clear some of this up from our point of view.

Rogue poison damage had at least two bugs in the system when Lich King launched. When we fixed those bugs, rogue damage dropped significantly. There is speculation that the same thing is true of Dirty Deeds -- that because Dirty Deeds was inflating poison damage more than we realized that rogue damage will drop too much with the Mutilate changes and Dirty Deeds bug fix.

We do not have that concern at this time. We are happy with Mutilate's extra damage to poisoned targets to be 20% with or without Dirty Deeds. We plan to increase rogue PvE damage in other ways, such as through the announced (but not finalized) Hunger for Blood, Killing Spree and Lightning Reflexes changes in 3.1.

I suspect the Dirty Deeds bug was introduced at the same time as the Mutilate nerf in 3.09, but can't know for sure without a lot of digging. (I say that because I suspect the Dirty Deeds talent had to recalculate bonus damage and we neglected to change this calculation when we changed Mutilate itself.) I'll report back when and if I have time to investigate or if someone else at Blizzard knows the answer off the top of their head.

We are skeptical that the Mutilate change and Dirty Deeds hotfix will be the death knell for rogues in PvP, but we will keep an eye on what happens with these changes in place.