Banned without explanation, canned responses

#0 - Aug. 31, 2007, 9:52 p.m.
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Ok first of all I'm posting on another account because of course, my main account is banned and I can't do anything with it.

So, here's the deal. Imagine you have been playing wow, you go out for a few hours, and come home to find an email from Blizz saying you are banned. There is no clear explanation given. You appeal it, and AA sends back a canned response without even reading it. You write back again, and once again AA sends back another canned response, screwing you over. Hi, you're banned, thanks for the appeal we're still right, cya. This is just terrible customer service. And apparently AA has no phone number to reach and there's no one else to talk to? So me, a person who has been playing 3 years strong even since closed beta, gets screwed over out the blue for no clear reason. I have a 70 paladin with top of the line raid gear and season 2 gear, gladiator status and an armored nether drake mount. That was a lot of hard work and now I can't even log into my account.
Take a look at this [Removed] this is essentially the same story that has happened to me and many others. This is very shady, what is going on Blizzard? How can you do this to people?

Here are my order of emails:
Q u o t e:
From: [email protected]
Sent: Wed 8/22/07 10:25 PM

* * * NOTICE OF ACCOUNT CLOSURE REVIEW * * *

Account Name: ****
Realm: Gorefiend
Character Name: Andonisus

Offense: Unauthorized access to another account with malicious intent.

It has been brought to our attention that items and/or money have been sent from a compromised account to the character mentioned above. As a result, the account listed above is being temporarily suspended pending further investigation.


Q u o t e:

From: [email protected]
Sent: Wed 8/22/07 10:57 PM

****Notice of Account Closure****

Hello,

Account Name: ****
Offense: Unauthorized Account Access Policy
Details: Unauthorized Access to Another World of Warcraft Account

The actions detailed above have been deemed inappropriate for World of Warcraft by the Support staff of Blizzard Entertainment. Please review the World of Warcraft Unauthorized Account Access Policy at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01889p. Access to another World of Warcraft account which is not registered in your name constitutes unauthorized access to another World of Warcraft account, whether or not you had permission from the registered user. As such, this World of Warcraft account has now been closed by the Account Administration staff based on review of the above account infraction incurred. This action has been taken in accordance with the Terms of Use (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html) and our game policies (http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01712p). The recurring subscription on the account has been disabled to prevent further charges.


I was not even home when then happened. The ban is extremely vague, and the reasons are inconsistent. First, it says I received some gold/items from a compromised account, on the character Andonsisus on Gorefiend. That's funny, because I retired that character in July and was playing a completely different realm since then. Anyway, so the second email now says I accessed another WoW account that was not my own. Nope, not true, I was only playing on my account. But does it not seem odd to anyone that the two emails give completely different reasons? And there are no specifics given to back up this claim. It looks like Blizz just decided to give me a ridiculous ban, then ban me for something else, and give me no chance to refute it.

So I reply back with:
Q u o t e:

To: [email protected]
Sent: 8/22/2007 8:57:57 PM
Subject: RE: Notice: World of Warcraft - Account Closure

Hello,


My account name is ****. I have recently received an email saying my
account was "banned/closed". Please provide me all the information
available regarding this matter.

After waiting a week Blizz responds with:
Q u o t e:

From: [email protected]
Sent: Wed 8/29/07 8:15 AM

Greetings Kyle,

Thank you for your follow-up email. We have reinvestigated our extensive in-game logs as well as all the pertinent data involved in the closure of this account and have determined that the original closure was indeed merited.

We ask that you please take the time to review our Unauthorized Account Access Policy at: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01889p. It is clearly stated that any players who have accessed an account reported as compromised and are not the registered user of said account, or who have knowingly or unknowingly received items/gold from a compromised account may receive an account penalty up to and including closure.

As such, we regret to inform you that the account closure decision is final and the account status permanent. The World of Warcraft account will not be re-opened or re-activated under any circumstance.

Now I'm pissed off. They did not re-investigate anything, and they STILL have NOT provided with me any clear explanation or any details to back up their ban. I reply with:
Q u o t e:

To: [email protected]
Sent: 8/29/2007 9:06:42 AM
Subject: RE: Notice: World of Warcraft - Account Closure

No, this is unacceptable. I asked for the evidence detailing this account closure. You have simply repeated the false positive. I have never logged onto an account that was not my own registered account, and I have not received any items from anyone. I scanned my computer and found no keyloggers, but I don't rule that out and perhaps my account was compromised. I want to know when this happened, the character in question, the items in question, the server it happened on, and the IP of the one on my account. Because when this ban happened, I WAS NOT HOME and the character 'Andonisus' had not been played by me in a long time. I have been erroneously charged and after I asked for details, you still have given me no substance. I have been banned for a false reason, and after asking for details so I can prove myself innocent, Blizzard just restates its original charge without any proof. This is terrible customer service. Good day.

Blizz gets my email, copy + paste, delete, good day Kyle.
Q u o t e:

From: [email protected]
Sent: Fri 8/31/07 8:07 AM

Greetings,

Thank you for your follow-up email. We have reinvestigated our extensive in-game logs as well as all the pertinent data involved in the closure of this account and have determined that the original closure was indeed merited.

We ask that you please take the time to review our Unauthorized Account Access Policy at: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01889p. It is clearly stated that any players who have accessed an account reported as compromised and are not the registered user of said account, or who have knowingly or unknowingly received items/gold from a compromised account may receive an account penalty up to and including closure.

As such, we regret to inform you that the account closure decision is final and the account status permanent. The World of Warcraft account will not be re-opened or re-activated under any circumstance.


This is completely ridiculous. The ban is never really clear to me, it's very vague and the first two reasons aren't even consistent. I believe, if anything, perhaps someone accessed my account while I was not home, sent or received some gold, and that's how I got banned. But I didn't discover any keyloggers, and the armory still shows my gear in tact, so I'm ruling that out. I don't know what to do now. I just want my account restored to me.

Think about it this way, even if you were banned for a legitimate reason, wouldn't you at least want to know the details? At least then you could get some closure and come to accept it. But I didn't do anything wrong, and if there was any wrongdoing, it wasn't me. So, a long term customer like me does not deserve the ridiculous cut and paste responses and "just another wallet" treatment. This is my last hope, if this post does not get me any help, I am quitting WoW for good. I'm not going to give Blizzard more money just so this crap can happen again.
#17 - Aug. 31, 2007, 10:41 p.m.
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Could you perhaps provide me with a name and realm of a character on the account in question, Grunna?


Edit: I retract that request. :)
#22 - Sept. 1, 2007, 2:13 a.m.
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I was not even home when then happened. The ban is extremely vague, and the reasons are inconsistent. First, it says I received some gold/items from a compromised account, on the character Andonsisus on Gorefiend. That's funny, because I retired that character in July and was playing a completely different realm since then.


Oddly, our records disagree with you — though you claim not to have used that particular character in recent history, we have evidence that you logged into your paladin on the day in question, at the only location from which you've played for the past two weeks, and partook in the willful and malicious compromise of another player's account. The facts have been reviewed several times, via multiple levels of analysis and echelons of management, and the original conclusion stands; you may protest your innocence, but the decision has been, and likely shall be, upheld.

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Anyway, so the second email now says I accessed another WoW account that was not my own. Nope, not true, I was only playing on my account. But does it not seem odd to anyone that the two emails give completely different reasons? And there are no specifics given to back up this claim. It looks like Blizz just decided to give me a ridiculous ban, then ban me for something else, and give me no chance to refute it.


You were found to play an integral role in the unauthorised access of the affected account, Grunna, and your culpability is implicit in the multiple Terms of Use violations that occurred during that most egregious infraction; additionally, you may note that your particular offense comprised knowingly acting as a beneficiary for the theft of virtual property that occurred, not necessarily the access in and of itself. I also feel it important to note that merely because we see no benefit in sharing the specifics of our investigation — which, with the evidence against you, hardly seems necessary — does not mean that none exist by which the judgment was passed. Given that you purport yourself to be an adult, I feel it may behoove you to consider that the time has come to accept responsibility for yourself, and bear the repercussions your actions have earned.
#46 - Sept. 1, 2007, 6:48 p.m.
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Strangely, Pav's appearance and the OP's disappearance always seem to coincide with one another.


This is obviously due to the fact that Pavonum is the OP. Amirite? Wut?
#54 - Sept. 2, 2007, 9:59 a.m.
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Pavonum, since you appear to hold more answers surrounding my case, could you please send the details to my registered email address? This will help me out, thanks. What you cited as proof was all truly news to me, so I have done some re-investigation on my own end. You said that the person on my account may not have actually compromised another account, but helped someone else steal one. This new angle gave me a few ideas for possible suspects. So, I looked into it and now I have a strong suspect of the person who was on my account from the same home, but the email will clear it all up. I would like to bring justice.


I regret that further details regarding the results of Account Administration's investigation — as well as the body of evidence against you — shall not be divulged to you; as I stated before, the matter has already been revisited on multiple occasions and is considered closed. My apologies.
#128 - Sept. 4, 2007, 1:07 a.m.
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<---------------again, please!


i think this topic has been beaten to death.....

<gives Vrak beguiling BElf eyes>


*takes the BElf eyes*

What am I supposed to do with these?

*puts the eyes in a jar*

I don't believe this thread is going anywhere productive so I'll be locking it now. Thank you everyone.