Warlock Concerns attempt 2

#0 - Oct. 31, 2008, 8:28 p.m.
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Last warlock thread you mentioned that more or less we were suppose to step up to plate and be less critical and more helpful. Reading the beta forumns talking to players and noticing my warlock itself there are a few pretty big issues hurting right now.

That being said we don't want the warlock threads blue posted in that don't make recomendations just accusations, but the fact that suggestion threads "I know their long" are not getting attention is starting to take a tole on the good warlock posts (There has been many great posts!). Almost every lock thread agrees that (including beta, english, french, korean, etc forumns) chaosbolt is not great (I know your answer here then don't use it" Metamorphis is a neat idea but really needs a lot more attention, afflictions rotation is a nightmare "this was acknowledged thankfully"

So here are some suggestions, please respond to the suggestions and explain why or why not so that we can try to make other suggestions and together find something that works for both of us. Don't respond to the omg soulshards needs fixing etc etc, yes you mentioned you guys were thinking about how to fix that, which in are defense has been a thought for a long time but anyway here we go.

Destruction
- Choas bolt, Instant. (Why, because destruction is still way to dependant on Casting+Stationary , LOS, and being locked out of spell trees. Mostly make it instant for pvp but would also help pve dps if locks decided to go this path.) I know hunters have simular line of sight complaints but I beleive this is hurting destruction a lot more then our hunter friends.

Demonlogy
-Give demon form a permanent form for warlocks, especially if your going to be succeptable to MORE cc then you were before IE Turn evil and Banish. (Why, because "I know blizz hates it when we compare classes but" every other talented form regardless of damage reduction abilities is permanent if you spec into it" So unless this is a failed attempt at Beastial Wraith which may I remind you makes you immune to All types of CC not adds more) As well Give Soul Link the 5% bonus damage back, not sure who in the world decided to take this away.

Affliction
-Haunt needs to be instant cast, this would do wonders to simplify the rotation for affliction warlocks and allow affliction to maintain it's ability to move around while doing most of their rotation. (Why, because affliction has always been the warlock mobility tree, this was it's strength and with so many melee counters to afflictions insta howl they along with every other warlock spec are tanks again.)

Other major Fixes
Give us back our old Self Buffs, the New fel armor is not cool and the Armor on Demon armor is downright terrible. I guess this is complaining so my solution, fel armor, 130 spell dmg and 30% more + healing, Demon Armor 2000 Armor+ and increased health regen.

A really cool idea I also read was to make nether protection for melee damage, that would help at solving a lot of destructions surv issues.

There is talk about dispel resistance for destruction! this is kick ass and long overdue, what about for the few dots demon locks use?

As well, (since demon is our pvp spec) please bring demonic knowledge back to 15% it's incredibly frustrating to have your talent tree's nerfed slowly then while others are buffed never getting your old talents back.

Please Answer, I promise to shut up (Or atleast come up with different suggestions) If I just know Why we are not making these changes. Many warlocks have also posted awesome recomendations in beta forumns and on warlock forumns. Would really help with some of our numerous low points. If you guys could again repost these below I think it would be greatly useful.
#8 - Nov. 1, 2008, 12:24 a.m.
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Okay, I'll answer these, but I predict it will just launch more responses when you don't like the answers. :)

Q u o t e:
Destruction
- Choas bolt, Instant. (Why, because destruction is still way to dependant on Casting+Stationary , LOS, and being locked out of spell trees. Mostly make it instant for pvp but would also help pve dps if locks decided to go this path.) I know hunters have simular line of sight complaints but I beleive this is hurting destruction a lot more then our hunter friends.


We're talking a lot about warlocks in PvP right now. Instant-cast spells may or may not be one of the changes we'll make. Ultimately, changing Chaos Bolt and Haunt to instant just makes them different spells. We would have to nerf them significantly to make them instant, which would have PvE ramifications. Warlocks do have a fair number of spells they can cast while moving.

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Demonlogy
-Give demon form a permanent form for warlocks, especially if your going to be succeptable to MORE cc then you were before IE Turn evil and Banish. (Why, because "I know blizz hates it when we compare classes but" every other talented form regardless of damage reduction abilities is permanent if you spec into it" So unless this is a failed attempt at Beastial Wraith which may I remind you makes you immune to All types of CC not adds more) As well Give Soul Link the 5% bonus damage back, not sure who in the world decided to take this away.


We don't want warlocks to be in demon form all the time. I think we've explained the Soul Link change before.

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Other major Fixes
Give us back our old Self Buffs, the New fel armor is not cool and the Armor on Demon armor is downright terrible. I guess this is complaining so my solution, fel armor, 130 spell dmg and 30% more + healing, Demon Armor 2000 Armor+ and increased health regen.


What is your beef with Fel Armor? Our internal testing found that once you have gear with Sprit on it that it can improve you dps by 20% or even more. You may be low at your current levels without Spirit. That will change in just a couple of weeks.

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There is talk about dispel resistance for destruction! this is kick ass and long overdue, what about for the few dots demon locks use?


We're looking at dispel resistance for locks in general.
#158 - Nov. 2, 2008, 6:04 a.m.
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This is one of the best threads with constructive thoughts ive seen in a long time.


I agree, and I keep up with it.