No 51-point talents in 3.0 >EDIT: I was wrong

#0 - Oct. 14, 2008, 6:20 p.m.
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According to Ghostcrawler in the Beta General Discussion forum:

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The build going live right now has a lot of class changes. But it doesn't have all of them. Some changes, particularly those that affect high level abilities and some of the changes we made more recently won't be in today's build. But you will get them all on or before Nov 13 when Lich King goes live.

While we have done some balance testing at level 70 with the changes, we tested at level 80 a lot more, since so many players are focused on Arena combat and endgame raiding. Balance at 70 is going to feel different from 80. :)

If you played WoW at the 2.0 version before Burning Crusade shipped, you'll remember that this can be a crazy time. You have new abilities through talents, but not new core abilities, and not enough talent points to get everything. There are major gear changes, major mechanic changes, and a lot of class changes. Some of those are going to take some getting used to, and despite our best efforts, it's entirely possible we'll find something broken that needs to be hotfixed right away.

The game should start feeling a little more normal again when Lich King ships. It's cool to keep providing feedback and testing things out. Just try and be a little patient and understanding over the next couple of weeks as players learn about the changes (especially players who weren't in the beta), get all of their broken mods working, and we make whatever fixes we need to make on our end.


Now, when I look at today's patch notes, I noticed that none of the 51-point talents were in there. No Beast Mastery for hunters, no Berserk for druids, no Titans Grip for warriors, etc.

Can anyone confirm this? what else is missing from the patch notes?

And what I want to know is: if we are getting gimped/incomplete talents, why remove the Amani Warbear, the Champion of the Naaru and the hand of Adal titles right now?

EDIT: I was wrong, and as I said, I'm happy I was wrong. Thanks for the clarification, Bornakk.
#9 - Oct. 14, 2008, 6:33 p.m.
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Re-read the patch notes, the nothing above the 41 point talents is available. if you think I am wrong, please show me an example in the patch notes that proves it. I would be happy to be wrong here.


Last I heard:


  • All players will have their talent points reimbursed and will have access to new talents throughout their trees; this includes the 51-point talents. Several new spells and abilities have been added for all classes. Players will need to visit their class trainer to learn new spells.
#34 - Oct. 14, 2008, 6:47 p.m.
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I'll link over to this other post as a reminder that not everything is done, balancing is still happening so changes will come over time as well.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162617564&pageNo=1&sid=1#17
#36 - Oct. 14, 2008, 6:51 p.m.
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Do we get free respecs for now or something like that? Since there's a bunch of new stuff and no one knows (maybe those who played PTR do but..) what is best for PvE and PvP. It's gonna take a lot of respecs until we find the best spec and i dont have that much gold lol


Uno