03/09 Finalizing Russian migration - FCM

#0 - Sept. 3, 2008, 1:41 p.m.
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Original announcement: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5640394530&sid=1

The free character migration to allow players on Molten Core, Shadowmoon, Stonemaul and Warsong to join larger realm communities has been opened. The destination realms for each are the following:

Molten Core --> Burning Steppes, Deathwing, Dentarg
Shadowmoon --> Boulderfist, Spinebreaker, Xavius
Stonemaul --> Ahn'Qiraj, Burning Blade, Jaedenar
Warsong --> Auchindoun, Bladefist, Haomarush

Note that each source realm has a destination realm in the same Battlegroup, underlined above.

These migrations will remain open until further notice, and at least until the release of the next patch. When the migration closes, remaining characters will be automatically transferred to the one of their destination realms with the lowest population.

If you have any questions concerning the closing of these realms, or the related migrations, please feel free to post them below and we'll do our very best to answer them. To make sure questions and answers are easier to find, any unrelated posts will be deleted from the thread.
#1 - Sept. 3, 2008, 1:42 p.m.
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Q: Why these destination realms? Why not Realm X or Y?
A: The realms were chosen based on several considerations; faction balance, overall population, and Battlegroups - each source realm was given a destination in their own Battlegroup. While arguments can be made for other realms, we felt these were the ones providing the best options overall.

Q: Couldn't you just have merged the four realms?
A: Even with merging the four realms the resulting population would be well below that of other realms, thus while it was looked at it was not considered a viable option.

Q: Can't you open free migration to all other realms?
A: We wish to make it an easier transition for players to move to a new realm by seeing at least some familiar player and guild names around, plus make sure it's easier for guilds and friends to easily agree on a realm and make sure everybody goes to the same realm. We also don't wish to stop this specific migration prematurely, hence we've picked realms that all can fit the entire population of any source realm. Additionally, there are technical limitations on the number of migrations we can have set up at one time.
#30 - Sept. 3, 2008, 4:48 p.m.
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Everybody, please note that posts on the English language forums need to be in English and English only. All moderators need to be able to understand all content of posts and signatures to be certain that it's not unsuitable for the forums. If it's not in English, the post will be deleted, regardless of how harmless or even helpful it might have been.

For those wishing to post in Cyrillic, this thread exists also on the Russian forums:
#56 - Sept. 4, 2008, 2:08 p.m.
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Q u o t e:
No offence,but this is kinda wrong.Karazhan needs players,why aren't we on the "to migrate" list?It would be nice if we get a blue to respond please.

We won't go into the details of each realm, but a general response was added in the second post in this thread.

Btw, I noticed a post in the original thread said Shadowmoon had lots of Alliance (1500) and no Horde, which is a good illustration of how 3rd party numbers are often completely wrong or misleading; Shadowmoon was and is still Horde dominated when looking at players online at any point during the day. ;-)
#62 - Sept. 5, 2008, 1:34 p.m.
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Q u o t e:
Slighty off-topic, but when will these realms be re-opened? When Wrath is released, or before/afterwards? Sorry if it's too early to say, I'm just curious and I know a lot of other people are too.

When the population level on already open realms makes a new realm required.

Q u o t e:
And the detail of having to switch the account to russian only is laughable at less

There's no requirement to change the account to Russian-only to move characters to the Russian-language realms. You can keep your account as European, and have characters on both Russian and English realms.

Q u o t e:
Please make Shadowmoon --> Hoamarush or Jeadenar please.
I have asked in the forum before the destination was posted about Shadowmoon --> Jeadenar or Hoamarush, but now Warsong get Hoamarush and Stonemaul get Jeadenar. Why?

As explained in the second post in this thread there were many considerations adding up to these choices for each realm. Posts requesting one or the other are never taken into consideration, however, as they generally represent the wishes of single individuals or smaller groups.
#69 - Sept. 8, 2008, 12:27 p.m.
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Q u o t e:
I'm just wondering, how are the transfers going. Did a lot of people allready switched realms or are they still on their original ones?

A lot (several thousands) already moved to new realms. We suspect a new wave of migrations might come after this week's maintenance, when people have had a chance to discuss through the week and then wait for their Arena points.

Q u o t e:
Why didn't you then take into consideration something that was definitely NOT a smaller group wish - that is to give that small number of people one low-pop realm to go to, instead of moving them to 9 different realms?

We saw posts about it, and it was indeed taken into consideration. That we don't agree with you doesn't mean we don't listen to you.

Moving all four realms' population to the same destination could have caused the migration to be forced closed prematurely. While merging the four would have created a very low population realm, that doesn't mean they wouldn't flood another realm if they all moved to the same one.

There's also the limitation of migration not working if you already have a character of the other faction, and some might even have characters on different factions on the source realms. I wouldn't expect that restriction to apply during the automatic move of lingering characters at the end of migration, but we don't lift it during player-controlled migration.

Q u o t e:
My little brother is facing problems to connect to Spinebreaker since yesterday, 03-08-2008. He plays from Brazil and I play from Switzerland.

However, he is able to play on realm Karazhan without any issues. What is funny is that he started to have this problems exactly when the migration to Spinebreaker started.

Can you please help me find out the problem?

As was pointed out above, please take technical problems like connectivity to the Technical Support forum, or contact our technical support department by e-mail:
#72 - Sept. 9, 2008, 12:31 p.m.
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Q u o t e:
Hello GM. I have 1 question. Tomorrow Wednesday 10 september Molten Core be closed or no? Because tomorrow i take points and take brutal weapon. And I need know this. You write realms be closed after release patch, but if patch release blizzards warn for a week earlier.

The next patch isn't even on the PTRs yet, so no, it won't go live tomorrow. :)
#75 - Sept. 10, 2008, 8:44 p.m.
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Q u o t e:
OO tomorrow I will have time to receive points and to take item?)

I think I might not have been clear enough.

You will have at least a few more weeks before the realms close.
#84 - Oct. 10, 2008, 2:13 p.m.
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The original announcement has been updated with additional information
#89 - Oct. 20, 2008, 9:25 a.m.
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Q u o t e:
Please, blue responce?

Migrating EU -> RU still not working...

"Our account management pages are currently unavailable" ... for DAYS !

ps. only one my banking twink left behid, and I cant do anything...

The error has been located and should be fixed today.
#90 - Oct. 23, 2008, 2:54 p.m.
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Following our previous announcements about free character migration from Molten Core, Shadowmoon, Stonemaul and Warsong we wish to advise that we will be closing these realms on Wednesday October 29.

Please see the following thread for more details: