Don't call for nerfs

We would just like to remind people of this rule:

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Don't call for nerfs

Calling for a nerf on something is very provocative to those at the other end of the stick. Such threads are by nature unconstructive and in most cases considered trolling.

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10701098&sid=1

Threads with titles as "Nerf class X" or "Class Y is overpowered" will get locked, and forum suspensions will be issued If the content of such threads are particularly non-constructive or directly offensive.

If you wish to discuss class balance issues, please feel free to do so, but remember that such discussions can seem very provoking and annoying to the players of a class you believe to be overpowered or imbalanced. Therefore it is a good idea to be careful with your choice of words and to post proper data and evidence/examples to support your reasoning and argumentation. It is important to be considerate, constructive and thorough in your argumentation when creating such threads, because your thread will get locked if it is interpreted as a nerf thread or if it derails into a flamewar.

Most importantly it is a good idea to consider whether or not your thread is more suitable for the suggestions forum, because that forum is the best place to post, if your goal is to inform us (Blizzard) that a class is not balanced and that you have good solutions or ideas for ways to change or improve that class.

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Then what exactly are we supposed to discuss here? Most discussion is about what people find overpowered, and sometime suggest fixes.

You can discuss class balance just fine, but please refrain from creating pure nerf threads or similar flamebaiting threads.

I will repeat this part from my original post:

If you wish to discuss class balance issues, please feel free to do so, but remember that such discussions can seem very provoking and annoying to the players of a class you believe to be overpowered or imbalanced. Therefore it is a good idea to be careful with your choice of words and to post proper data and evidence/examples to support your reasoning and argumentation. It is important to be considerate, constructive and thorough in your argumentation when creating such threads, because your thread will get locked if it is interpreted as a nerf thread or if it derails into a flamewar.

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thank you for communicating this to the users, but I am yet to see consistent action taken against the "nerf" promoters

the forum is still filled with useless nerf topics with with no supportive arguments

Please feel free to help us keeping these forums clean by reporting such posts.

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Too many decent constructives threads have gone ignored for a long time, nerf threads at the very least get replies when they are locked, I am yet, in over 2 years of playing this game, seen any CM on these forums bother to reply to a single constructive post on these forums, and I doubt I ever will.

Just because we do not reply doesn't mean that we do not read. We do give feedback when we have feedback to give however, but that mostly happens in the class forums.

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It's all good saying stop making unconstructive nerf threads, but when we get 0 feedback whatsoever there is little left to resort too.

Pure non-constructive Nerf threads will not be taken seriously and will get ignored. Such threads will get locked when discovered and bans may be issued depending on the content of such threads.

Nerf threads are beneficial to no-one, least of all the creators of such threads!

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Creating constructive threads about advantages is OK

"Nerf [Insert random class here]!!11" Threads by morons in subpar gear is NOT.

This is a quite crude way of saying it, but this is, in essence, what we are trying to get across!

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I guess it's the difference between "nerf walocks they are overpowered!!!" and "DoTs not being effected by resilience produces a significant scaling issue with PvP damage", or "Nerf MS!!!" and "the MS healing debuff makes warriors fairly mandatory for 5v5 Arena PvP".

One is just pointless whining, the other is pointing out an issue that may (or may not) have "nerf" results, but that's not really the issue.

Exactly! :-)

Pointing out an issue in a constructive manner is perfectly fine, and we gather feedback from especially such threads.

A thread that just claims that a class is overpowered and it needs a nerf is good for nothing. Such threads contain no useful information and they are of no use for gathering feedback or pointing out player concerns. Pure and unconstructive nerf calling serves only to provoke and to annoy people, and in most cases this will be considered trolling and as such will lead to a forum suspension.