Warrior = Ele 2.0 ? - Blue Tracker

#1 - Oct. 29, 2013, 6:40 p.m.

Hello everyone,

just an interesting thought which came to my mind:

Is the warrior the new D/D bunker ele?

I’m not talking about the nerfed one. The pre-nerf(s) build which had everything, damage, sustain, tankiness and mobility. I’ve seen and played against quite a few warriors (far from pro level but still decent), watched a lot of videos and checked multiple threads.

So far everything the warriors offers seems to be as good as the old ele build. The only difference is that it’s even easier to play.

I know warriors always have been popular (and pretty much god tier) in PvE and WvW but with the last buffs it’s the same thing for PvP. You see them everywhere. Some might say people just like the playstyle or the look but I’m sure it’s different now. Warriors simply are too strong. Not only in PvP but every part of the game.

Here is what I would like to see:

a) Nerf warriors to match other professions.
b) Buff other professions to match warriors.

Honestly, it’s really annoying that I had to reroll to a warrior(/guardian) for PvE and WvW. Since it’s the same for PvP now I don’t think there is a single reason to play anything besides that one profession.

What did you guys do? Still play your favorite profession or reroll to maximize your effectiveness?

Do you think warriors should be nerfed or should other professions be buffed? Or is the game balanced now?

JonathanSharp

#41 - Oct. 30, 2013, 7:51 p.m.

Warriors are pretty strong right now, but will be seeing changes in an upcoming patch.

We like how they can be tanky, and we like how they can do DPS if they want. We also like the CC they can bring. We just don’t like them doing it all with 1 build.

JonathanSharp

#170 - Nov. 1, 2013, 1:01 p.m.

Yes, we’re also looking at the other classes in relation to the current iteration of the Warrior and how they vie for spaces in the meta.

If we bring down Warrior slightly, we’ll also need to adjust other things to make sure they’re also not too strong.

Also, we want to shave most things down, instead of just running around with a “buff” stick. That’s how you get a lot of power creep, and it’s something a lot of you, very astutely, have pointed out – we need to avoid that.

Keep your eyes peeled for another post later today where we expound on a lot of this type of stuff.

JonathanSharp

#173 - Nov. 1, 2013, 1:26 p.m.

FrownyClown.8402:
I think you guys need to stop this notion of 1 class can only fill a certain roll. If I want a necro that can tank as well as aa guardian it should be allowed. You guys limit builds this way. An example where I think you fell short is siphon builds. It gas great tank potential but doesn’t heal enough with healing power. Another example is a ranger. It’s build diversity and viabily falls short because its constrained into a no burst type class.

Watch for an upcoming post…..both of these are addressed.

JonathanSharp

#176 - Nov. 1, 2013, 1:30 p.m.

DiogoSilva.7089:
JonathanSharp.7094:
Yes, we’re also looking at the other classes in relation to the current iteration of the Warrior and how they vie for spaces in the meta.

If we bring down Warrior slightly, we’ll also need to adjust other things to make sure they’re also not too strong.

Also, we want to shave most things down, instead of just running around with a “buff” stick. That’s how you get a lot of power creep, and it’s something a lot of you, very astutely, have pointed out – we need to avoid that.

Keep your eyes peeled for another post later today where we expound on a lot of this type of stuff.

I agree with this. I think buffs should only come to skills that are clumsy or inefficient. Even though the elementalist is currently the worst class for pvp, I would actually wish for its instant-burst damage to be toned down (which, in my opinion, should be done by adding a " damagedelay" to arcane skills, so that they wouldn’t be nerfed outside of pvp or even outside of this build). It would be interesting to see all classes have their strongest options “shaved” in the next balance patch.

BTW, when can we except the next wave of changes? In 2 weeks?

December. I’ll give out more details later.