The Feature Patch is NOT March 18th

#1 - Feb. 26, 2014, 10:54 a.m.

“The maintenance build is not the same thing as the feature build.”
-Grouch

My original post was deleted. It was “disrespectful” according to the moderator.
Facts are facts, so Im not sure how Anet expects people to talk on the forums at this point. It is a fact that something is being removed from PVP on the 18th and it is a fact that nothing will be added. All those features and balance changes that they’ve been talking about will NOT be added to the game March 18th, even though PVP has received no meaningful features since December.

Im simply trying to clarify things for the community so that when March 18th rolls around, no one is disappointed. If the moderators or Allie or Grouch would like to step in and clarify things in a more “respectful” manner, by all means.

Allie Murdock

#29 - Feb. 26, 2014, 12:34 p.m.

Could someone point me to where we have said that the March 18th build is the feature build? I’m trying to understand where the idea is coming from and why it has gotten to this point. I was out for 3 months so maybe I missed something.

Allie Murdock

#32 - Feb. 26, 2014, 12:40 p.m.

In this particular case, the feature build includes the next major step of PvP rewards. The maintenance build only includes the change to glory that will support the next phase.

Allie Murdock

#45 - Feb. 26, 2014, 12:53 p.m.

We are extremely specific about what is being released regarding PvP in John’s blog.

To quote from it, we say the following regarding this:

“This post is to let you know that glory will no longer be awarded as of a maintenance build that is currently planned for March 18.”
- Given that we have been calling the next phase of PvP the feature build, I’m surprised it wasn’t assumed that maintenance != feature here. Regardless, the next quote fully addresses that.
“The glory vendor that was introduced in the December 10 build will remain until the new reward system is released in a later update "
“Because these rewards are being removed in preparation for the next phase of the PvP reward updates”

In nearly every paragraph of this blog post, we discuss either what exactly is happening in this build, or mention that it is not a part of the next phase of rewards.

This is why I am confused as to where the misconception came from.

Allie Murdock

#69 - Feb. 26, 2014, 1:11 p.m.

Pyriall.5027:
Malchior.5042:
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Allie Murdock.8152:
We are extremely specific about what is being released regarding PvP in John’s blog.

To quote from it, we say the following regarding this:

“This post is to let you know that glory will no longer be awarded as of a maintenance build that is currently planned for March 18.”

Given that we have been calling the next phase of PvP the feature build, I’m surprised it wasn’t assumed that maintenance != feature here. Regardless, the next quote fully addresses that.

“The glory vendor that was introduced in the December 10 build will remain until the new reward system is released in a later update "
“Because these rewards are being removed in preparation for the next phase of the PvP reward updates”

In nearly every paragraph of this blog post, we discuss either what exactly is happening in this build, or mention that it is not a part of the next phase of rewards.

This is why I am confused as to where the misconception came from.

Holy kitten………………..
How hard is to just say whether or not the 18th patch will include all the balance changes talked about for months.

Because they don’t want to reveal said changes until they’ve been thoroughly tested and confirmed to be included in that release build.

If they say “balance changes coming on X date”, the community will berate them non-stop about what changes are coming. No changes can be stated until it’s confirmed in a stable state for release – it’s the nature of software development, especially agile development/iterative design that Arenanet uses. Anything can change at a moment’s notice.

EXCEPT…WOW, the largest mmorpg, always lists balance changes in advance and gasp they have PTR to test the changes and take feed back on. So NO.

WoW has been around for nearly 10 years. You’re basically comparing an infant to a 10 year old and saying that the infant should be able to beat up the 10 year old.

Mark Katzbach

#86 - Feb. 26, 2014, 1:24 p.m.

Because you guys are unable to have a reasonable, polite and respectful conversation with Allie regarding this matter, this thread is now closed. If you would like to respectfully ask a question or discuss a topic, please do so in a new thread.