Endgame... Reimagined? What?

#1 - Sept. 13, 2012, 4 p.m.
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https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-endgame-reimagined/

So I just read that article, and I’m kind of shocked. Now, to anybody who might recognize my name from MMO-Champion’s GW2 community… They probably think I’m a ridiculously zealous fanboy who has nothing to say but good things about you…

So, my response to this article will likely come to a surprise for people who (think) they’re familiar with my posting: There is no difficult endgame in GW2. Period. If you believe otherwise, you must have a blindfold on.

I love GW2’s design concepts and design goals, I really do… but the endgame we’re given in GW2 doesn’t get more challenging from level 1 to level 80. All of it is just mindless zerg. I want something more than that. What I want is the difficulty of raiding, without any of the nonsense that comes with a raiding guild. None of the roster management, the drama, the stress, the time commitments… none of that.

It’s what I was hoping Orr would be – but it turns out, from everybody I’ve talked to about Orr, (which is the best I’ve got to go on, unfortunately, though I’m close), that Orr is still mindless AoE-fests in zerging proportions.

Ya gotta try harder than that! Now, don’t get me wrong – I’m having fun with the game. I really am enjoying it. But I’m not being challenged at all, and I want to be. Yes yes, the dungeons can be kinda tough, depending on group composition primarily (BIG disappointment there, btw, with how rampant classism already is – doesn’t help that the only tough mechanic in dungeons is pure attrition), but what I want from GW2 is challenging DEs.

I don’t care how often the fail rate is. I’m fine with DEs that fail 9 times out of 10. I still get rewards for them, and that just means they’re incredibly difficult to pull off. In fact, I can safely say I’m absolutely sick and tired of running through zones where all DE paths have been pushed along the maximum progression in the direction of success. I have yet to see a single DE in a failed state!

That’s a big disappointment. It’s bland and boring. Give us some more challenge. And mind you, when I say challenge, I don’t mean “more boss HP!”
No no. I want challenging mechanics. Not tank-n-spank zergfests. I could sleep through most DE boss fights I’ve seen.

#185 - Sept. 14, 2012, 10:59 a.m.
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This thread has very definitely run its course, given the amount of arguing, people stating opinions as facts, personal attacks, etc. Thank you to those people who managed to discuss this topic in a way that is respectful of their fellow community members.